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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Caithness => Topic started by: pink lady on Friday 08 July 05 22:03 BST (UK)
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I would be grateful if anyone could help, I am researching David and Janet Grants children all born in Wick. David was born in Moray Janet (Mcivor) in Wick.
I have all information on the following children Alexander b1865 who moved to Liverpool, Jane b1866 married John Budge, Janet b 1867 married John Cameron moved to Edinburgh, Davidina b1875 married James Macdonald. Jemima b 1871 was headmistress at Bilbster school and lived in the schoolhouse died 1947 and is buried with her parents at Wick old cemetery
The following sisters I am having great difficulty in finding, Margaret Jane b1869 and Isabella Ann b1872, if any one can help I would be very very grateful.
Pink Lady
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Hi
Have found the following on IGI :
11/12/1869 - Margaret @ Halkirk, Caithness - daughter of David Grant/Jessie McIvor
25/05/1872 - Isabella Ann @ Wick, Caithness - daughter of David Grant/Janet MacIver
Ysabeau
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hi pal,
had another wee look at your post, thought mabye posting some details may spring a response, it would also bring to post to light again.
david grant married janet mcivor on the 12/5/1864 at thurso, caithness
grant children from the marriage:
alexander...28/2/1865
jane cruickshank...18/4/1866(a clue!!!)
janet bain...26/12/1867
margaret...11/12/1869
jemima macivor...17/3/1871
isabella ann...25/5/1872
all grant children born in wick
would nice to see the 1871 census on this thread for this family.
as i said jane cruickshank was the clue to david grant's parents.
there is a submitted entry for the marriage of alexander grant and jane cruickshank for 1/4/1821 in elgin but i do not believe this to be true, i think they were married in 1820.
grant children from marriage (all dates extracted)
margaret...31/5/1821
alexander...28/12/1822
john...27/9/1824
james...20/2/1826
jane...27/12/1827
george...15/7/1829
william...5/6/1831
anne...4/2/1833
elizabeth...5/8/1834
christina...27/2/1836
david...31/10/1837(yours)
janet...24/5/1839
robert...8/3/1841
andrew...1/2/1843
i make that 14 children!!! margaret and alexander were christened in dallas, moray, while all the rest were in elgin.
now the census!!
1841 census- inchallon, elgin
alexander...age 42...farmer
jane...41
margaret...20
alexander...18
john...17
james...15
jane...13
george...11
william...10
anne...8
christina...5
david...3
janet...2
robert...4 months
always searching
Joe
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Hi Joe
Just happened to see this reply to day, sorry to have taken so long to acknowledge it.
I do have Alexander Grant and Jane's Cruikshank's information, they moved from Elgin to Kilminster yes with fourteen children.
Yes they were married in 1/4/1821 I believe the 1820 date belongs to another Alexander Grant and Jane Criuickshank and Alexander died 1856 Jane 1868 both buried in Caithness.
The two sisters I am interested in are Margaret Jane born 1869, Isabella Ann born 1872, daughters of David Grant and Janet Mcivor( who are buried in Wick Old Cemetery without a headstone)
Thank you for the trouble of sending me the information I am very grateful.
Many thanks
Regards PinkLady
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hi pal,
lets start with the 1881 census- wick
david...age 43...weaver...born elgin
janet...age 45
alexander...age 16...lawyer clerk
jane...age 14
janet...age 13
margaret...age 11
jemima...age 10
isabella...age 8
davidina...age 6
Joe
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hi pal
1891 census- langley park, janetstown, wick
david...age 51...weaver
jessie...age 51
margaret...age 21...dressmaker
jamesina...age 20...assistant school teacher
isabella...age 18...domestic servant
davidina...age 16
Joe
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hi pal
1901 census- langley park
david...age 60...market gardener
jessie...age 60
davidina...age 26
1901 census- school house, scourie, sutherland
jemima...age 27...school teacher
isabella...sister...age 36...living on own means
joe
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hi Joe
You are a gem, thank you so much for the census information, I was aware Jemima had been in Sutherland but no idea Isabella was also, so I have a new direction to look at.
I am truly grateful for your time and help.
regards
pinklady
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hi pal,
a wee bit more......
1851 census- reiss house, wick
alexander...age 52...farmer
jane...age 51
alexander...age 28...farm labourer
john...age 26...farm labourer
james...age 25...farm labourer
jane...age 23...house servant
william...age 19
ann...age 18
elizabeth...age 16
christina...age 15
david...age 13
janet...age 11
robert...age 10
andrew...age 8
1861 census- biggins of kibr, wick
john..age 60...farmer
george...age 31...lodge millwright
william...age 29...manager of farm
david...age 23
janet...age 21
robert...age 20
andrew...age 18
lence mckimmie...grand-daughter...age 2
and what about this one...before david meets janet?
william mcivor....stepchild...age 19...shepherd...born thurso
1871 census- janetstown
david...age 33...weaver
janet...age 34
alexander...age 6
jane...age 4
janet...age 3
margaret...age 1
jamesina...age 17 days
Joe
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Hi Joe
You certainly are a mine of information! I don't think the 1861 census information belongs to my Alex Grant/Cruikshank as he died 1856, but I will keep hold of that info in case I can connect at a later date, was William Mcivor step child living at Biggins also?
Thank you so much I do appreciate the time and effort you have made to get all this information for me.
Regards
Pink Lady
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hi pal,
you are correct it was john not alexander, and yes william was with the grant's in 1861, makes me wonder know if i have the correct family in 1861??
need to review the post?
regarding jane mcivor did i say that i think her parents are james and janet bain?
Joe
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Hi Joe
I still cannot see a connection with my grants for the 1861 census you sent me, but I am not sure where the Grants were at that time so it is valuable to me to hold on to until needed.
I thought from Jane Cruikshank's will Alexander (son)took over Reiss farm, I am not sure what Biggins is a farm a place? But you have certainly given me a lot of information to carry on with, especially william Mcivor step son intriguing!
Many thanks for this valuable information.
pink Lady
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hi pal,
maybe alexander changed the name of the farm???
i believe that i have him now in the census as he was born dallas morayshire.
1861 census- gillock, wick
alexander...age 37....farmer of 200 acres
margaret...age 27
alexander...age 5
jessie...age 4
john...age 3
benjamin...age 1
betsey levack...age 22
i have alexander married to margaret levack on the 14/12/1854
grant children of the marriage....
alexander...1/10/1855 magical year
jessie...7/12/1856
john...30/4/1858
benjamin...3/11/1859
jane...24/1/1862
robert...1/3/1864
margaret levack...21/2/1866
elizabeth esther...9/11/1870
james...10/5/1873
1871 census- gellock farm, wick
alexander...age 48...farmer
margaret...age 37
alexander...age 15
jessie...age 14
john...age 12
benjamin...age 11
jane...age 9
robert...age 7
margaret...age 5
elizabeth...age 4 months
esther levack...sister-in-law...age 36
1881 census- gillfield farm, wick
alexander...age 58...farmer
margaret...age 47
alexander...age 25
john...age 22
benjamin...age 21
jane...age 18...pupil teacher
robert...age 17...clerk
margaret...age 15
elizabeth...age 10
james...age 8
esther levack...age 46
will check the later census for more....
Joe
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hi pal,
1891 census- south kilmister, wick
alexander...age 68...farmer
margaret...age 57
john...age 33
margaret...age 25
elizabeth...age 20
james...age 17
jane elmslie...daughter...age 29
elizabeth elmslie...age 2...born africa
alexander w elmslie...age 1...born africa
esther levack...age 55...nurse
Joe
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Hi Joe
Can this get anymore exciting? Yes Alexander Grant son married Margaret Levack 1854, 1855 magical year? I don't undererstand that wee bit. Am I being stupid?
I did have some of the children's names but not all so thank you once again for that information,
David Grant is the one I am intrigued by, him being my great great grandfather, I do have bits of family history of his siblings some who were scattered around the world and thanks to their families and you I have been to able to put pieces of the family to gether. I am so indebted.
I remain truly grateful for your help.
Pink Lady
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hi pal,
if you visit www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk you will find that the birth certificate of alexander 1855 contains more information than any others, in 1855 registration just started in scotland, so you will find lots of info on the family.
Joe
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Hi Joe
Did as you said and had a wonderful time gathering information on the www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk site about the Grants.
I cannot thank you enough for the information you have given me.
Kind regards
Pink Lady
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hi pal,
so pleased for you, glad it all came together in the end.
Joe
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hi Joe
Its not quite the end, I am still seeking information about Isabella Grant born 1872 and Margaret Grant born 1869, for which I will keep searching, regarding the other Grant family history I wouldn't have been able to proceed so far back or gather so much information without your help and expertise, for which I am very very grateful.
Thank you and kind regards
Pink Lady
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hi pal,
have you checked the lair that contains the parents?
maybe she was in last... contact the local council and ask for details..
do you think isabella ever married? she was 36 on the 1901 census, i reckon her death will be there on the scottishpeoples website.
another thing i do quite regular is i often guess their age at time of death and very often i am correct, due to the fact the male members do not live past the age of 70 and the females 75, i am not sure about your family but it might be worth a go.
regarding your maggie, is there any family rumour of where she may be?
trying to help
joe
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hi Joe
I have checked the family lair (in person) via Wick library and a day in Wick cemetery, although at the time I wasn't aware there were six siblings, but no luck there. I have searched for them both on the scottishpeoples no luck there either, but I never say never and will come across them one day.
No family rumours I'm afraid, no one left to ask, one sister did marry and go to Edinburgh, my idea was, in the beginning eight years back was to find the sisters of my great grandfather and call it a day, but genealogy got a grip of me and I am still trying to put bits to-gether, and with a lot of help and guidance from folk like yourself I have achieved a lot more than I expected too.
When I do find Maggie and Isabella you will be the first t know.
I remain grateful for all your help advice and expertise.
Pink Lady
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Hello Pink Lady
I have recently taken up the search for my ancesters. One of whom is David Grant, born Inshallon,
Morayshire (Elginshire)
She married James McDonald before moving to South Africa. I am the son of their only child. Janet.
I see I am years behind your good self and was wondering if you can help me with the tracing of
Davidina's siblings, namely Alexander, Jane, Janet, Margaret Jane and Isabella.
So far I have got copies of all their birth certificatesplus the marriages of Jane to John Budge and
Janet to John Cameron. So far I have been unable to find any death certificates for them in
Scotland Peoples.
Great Scot.
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hello Scott
I am not to sure of the information you have given me. Are you the grandson of Davidina? Daughter of
David and Janet Mcivor. Davidina was born Wick 1875. if so I have a lot of information on the Grant family.
If there is a connection if you send me your email address I will be more than willing to give you all the information I have.
regards
Pink lady
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Hello Pink Lady.
Yes I am the grandson of James MACDONALD and Davidina MACDONALD nee GRANT. They had a daughter
Janet MACDONALD B. 1911 They had no other children. Janet married my father James MCINTOSH in 1939, in Elgin, Morayshire. I am Donald MCINTOSH and I reside in Kent, England. Davidina is the daughter of David GRANT and Janet MCIVER and they Married in Thurso in 1864 giving their address as Stirkoke, Caithness.
I would love to hear from you about the GRANTS. I have some details of them but, as I have been doing the family tree for a year or two I have only got back to David's family so far.
My email address is *
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Don.
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I was hopeful that these might be family of mine, but if so they would be cousins I guess. My great grandparents were Alexander Grant (1822-1901)and Margaret (Levack) Grant (1833-1925) of Gellock Farm, Wick, Caithness. My grandmother was Jessie Grant (1856-1931, wife of James McDairmaid (1849-1909) (I've come across many spellings of this Sirname) . They moved to Canada about 1886.
Jessie had a sister Margaret(born 1866) & a brother Ben who also eventually emigrated to Canada.
I have a great aunt Isabella but she was born McDiarmaid (1844-1928) and that family didn't move to the Wick area until about 1860 from Sutherlandshire.
I'm afraid I may have just confused your search, but far enough back our Grants could be related.
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Hi, I think there maybe a connection. Alexander Grant 1822 was the brother of my great great grandfather David Grant 1838. They were born in Morayshire to Alexander Grant 1799 Jane Cruickshank 1799. Moving to Kilminster Wick. I have little information on Alexander 1822 other than his marriage. I do have other information I can share with you, let me know if it is the same family.
Apologises for not answering earlier.
Pink Lady