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Title: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: newmodernist on Wednesday 24 June 15 11:36 BST (UK)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136769072&ref=acom

Sarah B Speakman is my 3x Great Grandmother - none of the rest of the names seem to be of any relation..
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 June 15 11:59 BST (UK)
There's some information here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709531.0

Looking at the dates, they are all very close - so maybe all died as a result of the same cause? An epidemic, maybe?
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 June 15 12:08 BST (UK)
There was a typhoid epidemic in 1910 in Eccles?
The cause was ice-cream made in Ancoats?

See:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fjd/
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: newmodernist on Wednesday 24 June 15 12:50 BST (UK)
That's such a COOL thing to find out.   ;)

Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 June 15 13:20 BST (UK)
I should think that the death certificate, of any of these people, would hold some clues? ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 24 June 15 14:35 BST (UK)
My grandad (died 1937) is in a mass grave with 7 other men in London.
None of them are related,but his family were not able to afford a single plot for him.
Hence the much cheaper mass grave.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: newmodernist on Wednesday 24 June 15 15:26 BST (UK)
Don't have a death certificate as of now, but when I get it, I'll certainly look out for the possibility of terminal treats!

And yes, I don't think they were well off, so a mass grave could be likely.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 24 June 15 16:17 BST (UK)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136769072&ref=acom

Sarah B Speakman is my 3x Great Grandmother - none of the rest of the names seem to be of any relation..

I would have thought it unusual to have a headstone featuring people who were unrelated.   :-\
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 24 June 15 16:42 BST (UK)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136769072&ref=acom

Sarah B Speakman is my 3x Great Grandmother - none of the rest of the names seem to be of any relation..

I would have thought it unusual to have a headstone featuring people who were unrelated.   :-\

Sorry I missed that bit about there being a headstone Derr !!!

Good job one of us is awake Nanny Jan  ;D

In that case they probably are all related in some way.

Carol
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: newmodernist on Wednesday 24 June 15 16:55 BST (UK)
None of those names have come up in my research yet - the only ties seem to be they all died around the same time, but I'll keep an eye out for them.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 24 June 15 17:07 BST (UK)
I see that the B in her middle name stands for Brown- the last name on that headstone is a 6 year old Robert Brown.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 June 15 17:21 BST (UK)
The names are:

Sarah B Speakman
Died July 30th 1910 aged 57 years    Registered Chorlton
Harry Cooper
Died August 16th 1910 aged 23 years    Registered Stockport
Emma Hammersley
Died September <??> 1910 aged 69 years    Registered Salford
Euculnia L Lescure
Died Oct <??> 1910 aged 62(?) years    Registered Chorlton as Fuguenia
Bertha Blakeley
Died Oct 30th 1910 aged 26 years    Registered Prestwich
Robert Brown
Died Jan 3rd(?) 1911 aged 6 years


Bang goes the epidemic theory!! ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 24 June 15 19:57 BST (UK)
I don't know if the same applied here, but in the cemeteries in Leeds they had "guinea graves" where those who couldn't afford a grave of their own could nevertheless have a grave with a brief inscription, albeit shared with strangers.

For one of the Leeds ones, and a fuller description than I have given, see http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=20121119_174182
A search engine will bring up more examples.

Arthur
Title: Re: Does anyone know why these people would be buried together?
Post by: Galium on Thursday 25 June 15 10:19 BST (UK)
I don't know if you have spotted this thread, but the headstones in the pictures from St Joseph's Cemetery, Moston which Gortonboy posted also show lists of unrelated people buried together over a short time span.  The OP describes the grave requested as a "Public Inscription Grave".

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=704069.0