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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kincardineshire => Topic started by: Vicki Fraser on Saturday 15 August 15 01:59 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for more info on my 3rd great-grandfather. His name appears to have been Robert Bruce Fraser, with his father possibly Alexander. It looks like he had a twin sister Margaret. Robert immigrated to the US sometime before 1856 (which is when he married in Illinois). Has anyone come across him?
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Hi Vicky,
Can you supply some more info. please, birth year, whether married, where, who he married, occupation & names & dates of kids please.
Annie
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What I have so far, though I have some doubts about it, is this:
BIRTH: DECEMBER 1836 • Banchory-Devenick, Kincardineshire, Scotland
DEATH: 11 SEP 1905 • Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, USA
Married to Hanna Shain (or Sheehan)
Children: William E, Catherine Ann, Daniel, John, James, Mary.
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May have been a square wright (whatever that is).
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Is his parent/parents names not on his death cert. or marriage cert.
Annie
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I don't have either of those.
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Hmm.....
You will need them to proceed as thats the only route unless someone has spent their money on buying the certs.
Annie
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Preferably his marriage as it's his own word not a 3rd party.
Annie
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Can I ask why you think his father could be Alexander.
Annie
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my 3rd great-grandfather appears to have been Robert Bruce Fraser, with his father possibly Alexander. It looks like he had a twin sister Margaret. Robert immigrated to the US sometime before 1856 (which is when he married in Illinois).
As you don't seem to be too sure of Robert's name or his father's name, can you please tell us what document's you have seen which points to this info. & why you say "appears to be" especially with a middle name ???
Annie
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I have viewed on Ancestry.com:
The 1841 Scotland Census, 1850 and 1860 US Census, US Civil War Veterans Documents, and 1901 Canada Census. I have also gotten info from other member's trees, which I have to take with a grain of salt because it's sometimes hard to tell where they got the info (which is why I say "appears to be").
I thought it would be better to tell you when I'm not sure about something, so I don't leave you on a wild goose chase.
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Hi Vicky,
Thats appreciated but we ask questions in order to try to marry things together.
Trees online can be good for pointers but the documents are what confirms them so for your next step it would meed to be the marriage cert.
But I still don't understand you not knowing his name as his name must be on his childs birth, marriage & death certs. Your 2 x g grandfather ???
Annie
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I know his name is Robert Fraser, but I have no proof that his middle name is Bruce, because, as I've said, I got that info from other member trees.
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His child (your gg grandparent's) birth cert. will name both parents (mother & father) with father's occupation. Scottish births give date & place of parents marriage. You then need to purchase their marriage cert. to move up the ladder.
You can also look for them in census records to narrow things down regarding where they were born, approx. ages for births which would hopefully be in the same area of the 1st birth of their children.
Annie