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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: ctay1449 on Friday 23 October 15 17:23 BST (UK)
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I need help in finding more about the family of George Henry Taylor. He was born in North Tawton, Devon in 1866, immigrated to Canada with his family (wife Ada and children Philip, May (Alice) and John). I do know he initially settled in Crystal City, Manitoba, and then moved to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. After Ada died he married Nellie and had two more children - Edith, born in 1911 and Gilbert, born in 1913. Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated!
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This loks like the family you describe - 1301 11th Street 03B, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 1916
Ged A Taylor 48 Nellie Taylor 34
Phillip Taylor 20 John Taylor 18
Edith Taylor 5 Gilbert Taylor 3
Sandra
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Gilbert George Taylor born 2 November 1912 Saskatoon Sa, Canada - passed away 14 March 1997 - Father George Taylor and Mother Nellie Payne. - Last Residence 33469 Jupiter, Palm Beach, Florida.
Gilbert George Taylor - 2 Nov 1912 Canada Death Date 14 Mar 1997 Orange
Mother's Maiden Name Payne
Sandra
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Yes, Sandra, your first post is the correct family. The second post is very interesting. I thought Nellie''s maiden name was Alexander, but this could be incorrect. Thanks for your prompt reply!! I now have a new lead!
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George Henry Taylor who married Nellie Alexander 6 September 1908 Gloucester was a bachelor of the parish Chalford, Gloucestershire ???
The son Phillip George Taylor born 11 November 1895 Southend seems to be in Los Angeles California for the WW2 Draft. Phillip could be the P G Taylor who passed away 5 October 1959.
SSN issued California (Before 1951)
Sandra
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Philip George Taylor skated with the Ice Capades and managed the company for 5 years and at the time, I believe, lived in California. His daughter Megan (George Henry's granddaughter) won the World Championships for figure skating in 1938 and 1939. Philip apparently travelled the world and sought naturalization in the US.
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Philip was indeed born November 11, 1895 in Southend on Sea, Essex. He died October 30, 1959 in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Canadian Attestation Papers for Philip Taylor listed as born 12 November 1895 Southend on Sea.
These are in the process of being digitalised, so once they get as far as he letter "T" you will be able to view the complete military file - worth popping back to check from time to time.
As of today, 203,393 of 640,000 files are available in the database. Latest box digitized—box - 2873, name: Eliot.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/image.aspx?Image=627776a&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fdata2.archives.ca%2fcef%2fgpc016%2f627776a.gif&Ecopy=627776a
and brother John Taylor born 19 February 1897
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/image.aspx?Image=627010a&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fdata2.archives.ca%2fcef%2fgpc016%2f627010a.gif&Ecopy=627010a
Sandra
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Death Cert for Philip Taylor - Informant Lois Ann Taylor
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/0237/02371671.pdf
Sandra
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There is an anc tree on this family - if this is not you, it would be a point of contact for you.
FIND A GRAVE
John L Taylor - 1899 -1968
Burial :- Rosthern Cemetery Rosthern Prince Albert Census Division Saskatchewan.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=taylor&GSiman=1&GScid=2185152&GRid=67348292&
There is a burial for a Sophia Taylor - 29 January 1973 ???
Sandra
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brother John was born February 19, 1999, he added two years to his age to be able to enlist in WW1,
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Yes, John is buried in Rosthern, Sask. Sophie Taylor was John's wife, she is also buried in Rosthern. She died in Vancouver on January 29, 1973.
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Have you found Nellie on a passenger list ?
See a photo on the 1946 Declaration of Intention for Philip Taylor in California.
Downey California, City Directory, 1964/5 Gilbert G Taylor (Betty) - 9838 Birchdale Ave, Downey - experimental worker for Wolf Range Corp (also at same address 1975)
Sandra
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Suspect this is the wife of Gilbert - Betty Taylor born 14 February 1913 passed away 14 February 2007 - Last Residence 33469 Jupiter, Palm Beach, Florida. SSN issued California (1963)
Sandra
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Thanks for the help Sandra!! I found on a Canadian census page that George Henry, Philip, May (Alice) and John immigrated to Canada in 1901, and Nellie immigrated in 1909. I have been searching for a Nellie Payne, but so far no luck!
Carol
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My train of thought left me wondering if Nellie remarried after George passed away in 1927 and Payne maybe another married name if that was the case. ???
Sandra
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There is a possibility that Nellie could have remarried, I really don't know. I cannot find any more on Edith (1911), there are quite a few Edith Taylors in Saskatchewan at that time, but I can't find anything specific. Also, there is an obituary for Philip G. Taylor that says he is survived by a brother (John), sister (May), one half-sister (Edith) and two half-brothers (Gilbert and ??). I have not been able to find that write-up.
Carol
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New Thread posted here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734131.new#new
Sandra
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Could you please indicate where you found the death information for George Henry Taylor dying in 1927 and where he died. I have found several Edith Taylor's on the Voters lists in Saskatchewan but no idea if she is the one. Have also checked the Saskatoon Obituary Index and nothing there on this family. Also checked for Nellie but again nothing conclusive.
I have checked the Saskatchewan Genealogy Society Databases but found nothing on this family and nothing in history books.
I am beginning to think they moved from Saskatchewan sometime after the 1921 census.
This is a real puzzle.
Lilybell
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The family could have moved. I have a photo of George Henry Taylor's grave with "died January 13, 1927" written on the tombstone. I just assumed they lived in Saskatoon at the time. They had lived in Crystal City, Manitoba when they arrived in Canada (George's brother Louis was living there at the time).
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Hello
Thank you for your reply. Do you know what cemetery George is buried in. We have a lot of relatives buried in the Woodlawn Cemetery in Saskatoon so have done a lot of research there.
I see from George's attestation papers that they lived in Nutana in 1915 which was part of Saskatoon as we know it today.
Now its time to check out some further ideas that I have and see if I might hit the jackpot.
Lilybell
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Hello Lilybell,
No, I do not know which cemetery George is buried in. I checked the Saskatoon cemetery lists for his name, but could not find it. Carol
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Hello Carol
Information from Henderson Directories Saskatoon
1908-1909 Taylor Louis P foreman Gordon and Sparling h e s 4th Ave. 1st n 22( George's brother)
1910 Taylor George H Gordon and Sparling 313 20th West
1911 Taylor George H butcher Gordon and Sparling h n s 15th St n r McKinnon Ave Nutana
1912 Taylor Bros George H & Lewis P meat market 721 Broadway S
1913 Taylor Bros. 1005-15th St
1914 Taylor George mgr. Mrs. N Taylor 1005 15th St Nutana
Taylor Mrs. Nellie Geo. Taylor mgr. meat market 728 Broadway St Nutana
1915 George was in Active service 1303 11 St
Also found the following for who could be your Nellie
Henderson Directory Saskatoon
1927 Nellie Taylor steno Northern Life Assurance Co 403 3 Ave 1 North
1928 Nellie Taylor steno
1931 Taylor Nellie clk Ford Cinrs r 712 McPherson
This could be Nellie
Info for a Edith Taylor which might be the daughter
1928 Edith M Taylor school teacher 1141 Ave K South
1943 Miss E Taylor 212-116 2 Ave S
1946 Edith Taylor 213 116 3 Ave S
1947 Edith Taylor 212-116 2 Ave S
Could you post the picture of George's headstone. Do you know for sure it's him?
Will keep poking around.
Lilybell
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hi Lilibell,
I am sorry, but I am not able to post the photo of George Henry's grave at this time. I found the photo in a small case that belonged to his son John Lethbridge Taylor. On the back of the picture John had written the address of a Mrs. W.R. Wright in London, England.
Carol
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Hi Lilibell,
I have attached the picture of George Henry Taylor's tombstone that you had requested. I hope this helps.
Carol
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Hi Carol
Thank you for posting the picture. Now if I could just figure out where this cemetery is.
Wonder if anyone else might have a clue.
Will put my thinking cap on.
Lilybell
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Hello Carol
I wish I had some news about the cemetery where George Henry is buried. Off the top of my head this picture reminds me of a British cemetery just because of the church in the back ground. Could be what is known as a parochial cemetery meaning it is a cemetery connected to a church.
After much searching George, Nellie and Edith seem to completely disappear after the 1916 Canadian census. I have searched high and low in different countries Canada,England to be exact but to no avail.
Gilbert's information you already have. John's information also. Mary Alice died out in BC along with her husband James McMahon.
Do you by chance happen to have a obituary for Gilbert George Taylor sometimes they contain information in regards to family. I have seen some obituaries which have been a little gold mine of information.
Lilybell
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Thanks for all your hard work, Lilybell. Unfortunately, I don't have an obituary for any of George Henry's family members. Something may come up later, who knows.
Carol
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Hi, I am still trying to find where George was buried. I have found a U.S. Social Security and Claims Index on a George Taylor (other names on the card are Nellie Payne and Gilbert George Taylor). The records are from 1936-2007, but it is my impression that George died January 13, 2007 (I sent a photo of his tombstone in a previous post). Also, I believe Nellie married Lionel Morris in Spokane in 1925. I am very confused, I wonder if they immigrated to the U.S. after the 1916? Canadian census, as there is no further record of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Carol
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Hi, I am still trying to find where George was buried. I have found a U.S. Social Security and Claims Index on a George Taylor (other names on the card are Nellie Payne and Gilbert George Taylor). The records are from 1936-2007, but it is my impression that George died January 13, 2007 (I sent a photo of his tombstone in a previous post). Also, I believe Nellie married Lionel Morris in Spokane in 1925. I am very confused, I wonder if they immigrated to the U.S. after the 1916? Canadian census, as there is no further record of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Carol
Do you mean 13 January 1927 ?
Sandra
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The U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 you refer to shows Gilbert George Taylor - 2 November 1912 Saskatoon Canada - passed away 14 March 1997 - parents George Taylor and mother Nellie Payne.
Sandra
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thanks Sandra
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Marriage of Nellie Ta said she was divorced
A Border Crossing Canada to USA shows Lionel Morris born London England aged 44 years. Occupation importer. Accompanied by Nellie and son Robert (16) - 24 June 1933.
US Border Crossing Canada to USA shows Lionel Morris born 5 December 1889 London. Aged 51 years. Nearest relative in country from whence came was Nellie. Travelling alone. 4 December 1940 Eastport Idaho.
US Border crossing Canada to USA shows Lionel Morris aged 52 years - married - commercial traveller - wife Ellen. Destination Olympic Hotel, Seattle. Washington. Last address 2324 16 th Ave W Van. British Columbia. 7 June 1942.
Sandra
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Ellen Emma Morris (Taylor was crossed thru) - 11 June 1880 passed away 4 May 1960 Vancouver British Columbia. Widowed. Father Fred Payne. England. Name of husband Lionel Morris. Informant Mrs E M Cormack (per D M Richardson written alongside) - 312 - 12 th Ave N E Calgary Alberta - daughter. Cemetery Garden cemetery Ocean View. Burnaby. 7 May 1960.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1V7-93Y
Sandra
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Canada Voters List shows Edith Cormack 312 12 th Avenue North east Calgary Alberta in 1968/72
(also Peter Cormack - City assessor)
Coincidence ??? FIND A GRAVE entry for an Edith Taylor birth year of 1911 - 1985 ???
Burial: Burnsland Cemetery Calgary Calgary Census Division Alberta, Canada
Plot: Section H
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=141934506&ref=acom
Sandra
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Thank you for the information, Sandra. I am still trying to find where George Henry Taylor is buried, so will keep on digging. Carol
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Google "phil taylor ice capades" and you can watch a movie clip of him skating on stilts in 1941 at 46 years of age. Noted Megan was born in the UK, did they all go back ther for a while after the war?
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Philip and Olwen Taylor returned to England just before Megan was born. I suppose George could have returned with them. Nellie, Edith, Gilbert, John and May seem to have remained in Canada. George's is the only grave I can't find, the others are either in Canada or the States.
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The new GRO index has a death for a George Henry Taylor age 62 in Willesden RD. This would make him just about the correct age for your George?
I was wondering if you have tried to find out about the connection to the Mrs Wright?
PB
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No I haven't tried to find Mrs. Wright. That is a good suggestion! Thanks!
Willesden RD - do you mean in North York, ON?
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Willesden RD in Middlesex England
GRO link...the index is free to use but you need to register.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
The entry can also be found on FreeBMD but only the initial H is shown.
PB
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I am unable to find when George Henry Taylor (1864-1927) and Ellen Emma (Nellie) Payne divorced in Saskatchewan. I am also searching for the wedding of John Lethbridge Taylor and Sophie Ann Brown in Saskatoon, Sk. Would you be able to help?
Thanks,
Carol
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Canadian BMDs fall under provincial jurisdiction and their availabilty is subject to privacy laws. This link tells you what is available....
http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx
I'm afraid I don't know anything about divorce records.
PB