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Title: harris family
Post by: mrs bongo on Wednesday 28 October 15 22:04 GMT (UK)
 hi all
i could do with a little help please my granddad thomas frederick harris born 1903 in aston birmingham parents samuel harris and harriet clements  i know he had a sister called florence and gertrude and one of them lived in wales  im not sure who and if they got married
that all i know
thank you
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 28 October 15 22:33 GMT (UK)
Hi

Have you looked on freebmd for marriages?  If you have the family on the 1911 - it will show the ages of the sisters (if born by then) which will give a rough guideline to any marriage dates

www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 28 October 15 22:41 GMT (UK)
Hello,
It seems Thomas frederick had a lot more siblings than just Gertrude and Florence -and his father samuel died when Thomas frederick was young - before 1911

Marriage St Bartholomews
22 Aug 1879
Samuel harris 21 bachelor occ Stamper address Birmingham father George Harris occ Button Maker
Harriet Clements20 spinster address Birmingham father Charles Clements occ carriage maker
witnesses John and Elizabeth Pearson
Samuel signed others made their mark

1901
46 back of Woodcock St Aston
Samuel Harris head M 42 Dealer general shopkeeper
Harriet wife 40 Stamper steel tool
Samuel son 19 Stamper steel tool
Leah daughter 17 Press worker curtain rings London Flowery? Dean St
Harriet daughter 16 Press worker curtain rings
Ada daughter 15 solderer oil tin cans
William son 13 printers generally useful
Gertrude daughter 7
Florence daughter 1
all b Birmingham unless stated otherwise

Suz
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 28 October 15 22:46 GMT (UK)
Looks like Florence had a middle name and this is her baptism
Ashted St James the Less
Florence Elizabeth Harris
born5 Aug 1899
baptised 20 Aug 1899
Parents Samuel & Harriet
address 46 Woodcock St
father's occ general Dealer

Suz
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 28 October 15 22:51 GMT (UK)
looks like Gertrude was baptised as Gertie
Ashted St James the Less Birmingham
Gertie Harris
born 15 Nov 1893
baptised 29 Nov 1893
parents Samuel & Harriet
address Aston Rd
father's occ General Dealer

Suz
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: mrs bongo on Thursday 29 October 15 00:04 GMT (UK)
thank you for your help
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: mrs bongo on Friday 17 June 16 00:26 BST (UK)
hi
cant find any more info regarding Florence and Gertie  harrris
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 17 June 16 00:50 BST (UK)
Hi the sister who was possibly living in Wales, was Florence:-

Marriage Florence E Harris to William J Downing March qtr 1920 Llanelly 11a 2099

Death Florence Elizabeth Downing born 5th August 1899 death September qtr 1981 Llanelly aged 82 v24 page 1843

Keyboard86
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 17 June 16 19:50 BST (UK)
hi
cant find any more info regarding Florence and Gertie  harrris

 ??? Odd, as you have started another thread today re William J Downing?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: mrs bongo on Friday 17 June 16 21:08 BST (UK)
yes I know I put on the wrong page soz
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 17 June 16 22:52 BST (UK)
Hi again, think I have located Gertrude, at least her death:-

Gertrude Falloon b 15th November 1893 died Sept 1975 Birmingham aged 81 v32 page 0250

Highly possible her husband was a Joseph P Falloon born about 1888 who died Sept 1953 Birmingham v9c page 76 aged 65, he appears to be the Joseph Porter Falloon b abt 1888 who is on the 1901 Ireland census residing at Shankhill, Antrim
Keyboard86

EDIT their are births 1919/1922/1924/1928 of children with Surname Falloon Mothers maiden name Harris.
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: mrs bongo on Friday 17 June 16 23:18 BST (UK)
hi
that gud news  thank you for your  help
Title: Re: harris family
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 18 June 16 03:21 BST (UK)
Hi again, there is a Probate record for Joseph Porter Falloon:-

Joseph Porter Falloon of 66, Repton Road, Bordesley Green, East Birmingham, died 18th July 1953. The General Hospital, Birmingham, probate 18th August to Albert Victor Harris occ Engineer and Edna May Gardiner ( wife of Harold Gardiner ) Affects £707 12s 6d

Edna May Harris married Harold L Gardiner Sept qtr 1938 6d 1100, her birth was June qtr 1917 Aston 6d 906 Mothers maiden name Harris, potentially therefore a daughter of either Florence or Gertrude?

Edna May Harris born 27th March 1917 died February 2002 Birmingham aged 84
Keyboard86