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Title: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: nannyj on Wednesday 04 November 15 22:42 GMT (UK)
It's on the right hand side on my great grandad's side. I know he was an ambulance driver in ww1.
Thanks.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: carolli on Friday 20 November 15 11:35 GMT (UK)
park with care  ;)
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 20 November 15 11:37 GMT (UK)
It's probably a Post War Credits reference
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: tashie8 on Sunday 14 May 17 12:40 BST (UK)
I really want to know the answer to this question too.

Unfortunately it is definitely not Post War Credit as they did not start until 1942. So far I have found PWC next to the names of 5 personnel who all served in WW1 but different units, so perhaps it is something to do with being on a reserve list?
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 14 May 17 12:42 BST (UK)
Could be. I also know he was an arp in ww2.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 14 May 17 12:50 BST (UK)
Would the 'PWC' not have been added at a later date though?

Annie
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: tashie8 on Sunday 14 May 17 13:02 BST (UK)
It is possible PWC may have been added later, however cross-referencing a random selection of people I have found on the 1939 register with the medal rolls on TNA for WW1 all give hits for military service, it seems to be the common denominator... but what does PWC stand for? ???
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 14 May 17 13:11 BST (UK)
My assumption would be that although Post War Credits were introduced later than 1939 they would have received them i.e. added at a later date to the 1939 just as other info. was added to it?

Annie
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: tashie8 on Sunday 14 May 17 13:50 BST (UK)
Yes good idea, so to disprove the theory I would need to find someone I could be certain had a Post War Credit but does not have PWC against their name...
I'm determined to figure this one out, if only there was an abbreviation list that went with the register!
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 14 May 17 13:51 BST (UK)
What's TNA? I don't think my great grandfather was enlisted in ww1 as I have a letter from his sister dating that he had been exempted for another six months as he was an ambulance driver for st johns service. How would I find out? He was Cedric Cecil Amey born 1885 and lived in barking/Rainham around the time of ww1. He would have been married by ww1 too  ... 1911 to daisy hicks.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: tashie8 on Sunday 14 May 17 13:59 BST (UK)
TNA is The National Archive, so the official archives of the UK. If you go to the Discovery catalogue you can search the indexes of the TNA and many, many other archives around the country that have subscribed such as local museums and record offices. Discovery takes some getting used to but is very good once you have it figured out.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 14 May 17 14:07 BST (UK)
It may be an idea to ask the question on the 'Forces' board as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on there.

Annie
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 14 May 17 14:09 BST (UK)
Nanny, does the handwriting of the 'pwc' entry match that of the main entry for the family?

If it doesn't then, as suggested earlier, it's more than likely that it was added to the register at a later date and could well refer to post-war credit.

It would be useful if you could show a snip from the entry you're referring to.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 14 May 17 14:26 BST (UK)
It's in a different handwriting and different colour pen from what I remember. It's a whole since I posted this.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 14 May 17 15:05 BST (UK)
The PWC annotations would have made when a Post War Credit refund claim was processed. Most of these would have been added in the mid-1970's when repayment was made available to surviving holders.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 14 May 17 15:33 BST (UK)
Hmmm ... Both my great grandad and grandmother died in the 1960s?
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 14 May 17 15:40 BST (UK)
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Hmmm ... Both my great grandad and grandmother died in the 1960s?

Before the law changed circa 1973,  PWC refunds were only made on the death of the holder, subject to claim by the personal representatives of the deceased.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 14 May 17 15:42 BST (UK)
Sorry that's not quite right. From 1946, Post War Credits were repayable, subject to certain conditions, at age 65 for men and age 60 for women. From 1954 they were repayable in case of death or bankruptcy. From 1972 they were made generally repayable on production of a certificate.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 May 17 15:52 BST (UK)
Does it just say PWC or is there a number after it  :-\
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: JenB on Monday 15 May 17 10:42 BST (UK)
It's in a different handwriting and different colour pen from what I remember.

If that's the case, and as suggested earlier, the entry was an addition made some time after the original register was drawn up.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: NoodlesRS on Sunday 29 October 17 11:35 GMT (UK)
In my ancestor's case the annotation in green ink is on the right hand page and can be made out as 'PWC - 77/28 38'     Reading other postings I would imagine it applies to Post War Credits and as he died in 1974, presumably paid to his estate?
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 October 17 11:54 GMT (UK)
Does it just say PWC or is there a number after it  :-\

There's a number after it. 3 digits a slash and then 4 written in a much lighter pen.

I have found that most things written on the right hand page refer to WW2.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: andrewalston on Monday 30 October 17 12:24 GMT (UK)
I came across a reference to PWC meaning Post War Clothing - the "demob suit", but that would have been dealt with by the armed services.

The fact that I've just come across such an entry against a civil servant who was born in 1883 certainly strengthens the case for "Credit".
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 30 October 17 13:35 GMT (UK)
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In my ancestor's case the annotation in green ink is on the right hand page and can be made out as 'PWC - 77/28 38'     Reading other postings I would imagine it applies to Post War Credits and as he died in 1974, presumably paid to his estate?

It will certainly be a reference to a Post War Credit repayment claim. If he was aged 65 before 1972 it could have been claimed then, if not then it could be anytime from 1972.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: milford_lass on Wednesday 13 June 18 16:39 BST (UK)
PWC, Political Warfare Committee.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: gbuttery on Monday 08 March 21 13:47 GMT (UK)
I have come to this page as I did a search for PWC on the 1939 register.
All the replies imply that it is to do with the (men's) war service. Is this definately the correct meaning?
I have come across it relating to a female relation. She was 88 yrs old on the register. The whole entry for her has been crossed out and PWC 339/16078 written on the right hand side. Her husband is with her on the register; he has nothing added to his entry.
I'm intrigued. Has anyone any more information?
Thanks
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Nifty1 on Monday 08 March 21 13:58 GMT (UK)
More lately, in the forces, I think PWR meant Preliminary Warning Role

Perhaps it means something similar.
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 08 March 21 14:49 GMT (UK)
Deleted - wrong thread, sorry
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 08 March 21 14:52 GMT (UK)
https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1939-register-census-census/

Scroll down to Andrea's post of Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 11:47 am an see Audrey Collins reply of the Tue 23 Feb 2016 at 1:48 pm

Malky
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 08 March 21 15:20 GMT (UK)
PWC = Post War Credits. A kind of compulsory lending to the UK Government to pay for the war, taken from wages without any set date for repayment. The final payout of refunds was in the 1970's, subject to claim.
 
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Monday 08 March 21 18:55 GMT (UK)
   "All the replies imply that it is to do with the (men's) war service. Is this definitely the correct meaning?"
   My mother was in the forces in WW2 and she used to mention her Post War Credits, so not just men.
  Added - there is nothing in the 1939 register against her name, but she is fairly well disguised!
Title: Re: What does pwc mean on the 1939 register?
Post by: Torq on Saturday 08 April 23 09:14 BST (UK)
PWC means, Post War Clothing. I.e. Demob suit.