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Title: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Wednesday 27 January 16 02:43 GMT (UK)
Searching for any information on John Paton born around 1805 in County Sligo.   He came to NSW Australia and died in Molong NSW.   He had a son James P K Paton.  Names of his parents etc. would be appreciated. Thank you. Trish
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 27 January 16 08:51 GMT (UK)
John Paton was born well before the start of civil registration in Ireland and it's also quite early for records of most churches so there might be little detail on him here (let alone his parents).

In order to see if church records do exist then you'll need to know the family's religion at that time and where they lived (parish if not actual townland).

Have you checked Australian records for clues? marriage and death certificates, assisted passenger lists (as was found on another query of yours), etc.
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Wednesday 27 January 16 08:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you for replying.  I have checked BDM lists which is where I have found most of the details for them.  I am really happy I have been able to find what I have through your site.  I do not have a date as to when he may have come to Australia and shipping lists do not appear to give a lot of information.  I am fairly new to this research and perhaps I am missing something else I should be doing.

Trish
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:15 GMT (UK)
Newspaper articles sometimes mention Irish origins, other relatives, etc.- have you searched here?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/

The first one I found was John Paton's death announcement-
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71201990?searchTerm=paton%20molong&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices

The AUSTRALIA board will have stickied reference topics at the top of the board which cover resources in New South Wales and all the country.

Added- try convict records  ;)
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for that.  All help is very much appreciated.

Trish.
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:29 GMT (UK)
Just went to the site.  Yes I do have that information, in fact I am planning a trip to Molong as there are lots of Patons in the area.  Our history goes back a fair way in that area.  On re reading your message I had to chuckle at the convict reference.  Are you intimating something I may not know as yet?  We are what we are and I certainly can't change it if that is the case. I tried to put a smiley but it didn't work.

Trish
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:41 GMT (UK)
Well, if he's the one from Sligo that married Elizabeth Aull then yes he was a convict.
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:45 GMT (UK)
Now I am really laughing.  I now have a convict in the family and yes he is the one who married Elizabeth Aull..  Maybe there are many more to come.
Thank you aghadowey.

Trish.
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: dathai on Thursday 28 January 16 15:26 GMT (UK)
search here
http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Thursday 28 January 16 21:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you.

Trish
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Friday 29 January 16 01:18 GMT (UK)
Dathai - found John Paton Alias: Patton            Irish Rebel:           Religion: Catholic       Age on arrival: 21
Marital status: Single
Calling/trade: Stable man labourer
Born: 1806        Native place: Sligo
Tried: 1827      York England          Sentence: Life     Former convictions:
Ship: John I (1) (1827)
Crime: House breaking

Wondering now how to find court records and whether they might show more details on his native place such as town etc.

Thanks.
Trish
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Friday 29 January 16 13:25 GMT (UK)
Dathai - Thank you very much for that site. I found John Paton and his record -Alias: Patton            Irish Rebel:           Religion: Catholic       Age on arrival: 21
Marital status: Single
Calling/trade: Stable man labourer
Born: 1806        Native place: Sligo
Tried: 1827      York England          Sentence: Life     Former convictions:
Ship: John I (1) (1827)
Crime: House breaking
and I am wondering if it is possible to access trial records to see if they show what town he came from in Sligo.
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: asrichas on Friday 08 December 17 01:51 GMT (UK)
Hello
How did you go with John Paton. he was my g g grandfather.
I have some information on him . I am going to Molong on New Years eve
Regards
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: Trishmcc23 on Tuesday 12 December 17 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hello how great to hear from someone who is also related to John Paton.   Unfortunately I am no closer to finding anymore information not for want of trying.  He was my g g grandfather.  Are you related on your paternal or maternal side.   My g grandmother, Nancy Butler was married to James Paton who was a son of John Paton and Elizabeth Aull (Hall).   
How lovely that you are going to Molong, I am trying to get there .  My Nan, Letitia Gad Walsh (Paton) was born there.  I want to go  to see where she grew up and see if I have any relatives still living there.   Peter Butler and his wife Ann also my g g grandparents lived on a farm at The Gap.
With regards to John, I have found lots of information on him in Australia but have not been able to track him back any further than the trial in York.  No luck in Sligo at all.
Kind regards
Trishmcc23
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: asrichas on Tuesday 12 December 17 03:24 GMT (UK)
Yes; i have a lot of stuff. I am a bit busy at the moment but I will dig it out and send it through. Robert Aull , the father of elizabeth is also buried in Molong or Orange. and I have heaps on him as well, and yes, he was a convict also
cheers
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: asrichas on Tuesday 12 December 17 06:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Trish
I have had a chance to have another look and I can dig out all sorts of stuff including his life in York, his conviction etc > It would be best to email it to you . They recommend that you dont post email details on this site so I dont know how you could send it to me . Perhaps a message via my facebook page? I am Andrew Richards of Melbourne on fb.
Cheers
BTW, you have a third convict as Elizabeth's parents were both convicts.. Is that good news or bad!!??
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 December 17 10:47 GMT (UK)
You can use the PM (Personal Message) system here on Rootschat to exchange email addresses then go from there  :)
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Patons in Co Sligo
Post by: asrichas on Tuesday 12 December 17 21:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help
andrew