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Title: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Thursday 28 January 16 10:51 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace the family of my grandfather Donald McInnes who came to Townsville in 1908 and married Mary Slattery in 1911. Prior to arriving in Townsville he supplied cattle, sheep and horses to the Australian army during the Boar War. He was born in Taree, NSW and was one of 10 boys and 1 girl. His marriage certificate states that his father was John McInnes (Farmer) and Mary McPherson. I have information of his time in Townsville but nothing before his arrival in Townsville . I would appreciate help on this search.

regards Dunganess
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Billyblue on Thursday 28 January 16 11:52 GMT (UK)
How do you know he was born in Taree?
Have you looked for his birth certificate in NSW?  As it must have been over 100 years ago, it should be readily available if your supposition is correct.
It's cheaper to get a transcription - there are 3 agents available to do this for you and they will send it to you by email.

There is a Donald McINNES born 1886 (=25 in 1911) registered at Newcastle, parents Angus & Mary (21819/1886).  [John may have been his father's second forename, but the BDM registry often registers only the first forename.]
While Newcastle seems a long way to go to register a birth in Taree, bear in mind that in 1886 it may have been the closest place they could do this ???

Dawn M


Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Thursday 28 January 16 13:01 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

May I ask about the Qld marriage certificate....

From that document, what information did Donald give about himself .....

Was there a middle name mentioned on that document perhaps?
His then age
His then occupation
His status .... was he a bachelor when he married in 1911
His Dad's name and occupation .... was Dad noted as deceased on that document
His Mum's name and any former names ... was Mum noted as deceased on that document
His place of birth

Civil Registration for BDM commenced in NSW in 1856.  One of the districts was then known as Manning River and Taree district's registrations commence from about 1885.   McINNES can have spelling variations at NSW BDM .... MacInnes, McGinnes, McGinness, MacGuinness, etc etc etc.... Until WWI the registration process was oral information supplied to the districts' BDM office, (often in the rural areas this was a part time function of clerks at the Court Houses).   The clerk had the ledger facing him, and of course he was standing at a high wide counter.   So the informant (mum/dad) not only needed to be able to read 'upside down' they also needed to be able to read the clerk's scribble, and to correct the clerk's spelling mistakes.  So, imagine .... Parents come to town to fetch their goods, go to the court house with the new baby and any older siblings, stand at a high wide counter, and after answering the questions the ledger is swung around and the clerk says 'sign here'....  Would you say "there's spelling mistake" or "I cannot read your writing" or "I am not able to read" or would you obey and simply sign or make your mark "here" ?   :)

Here's a link to NSW BDM online index.  It is free to search  :)
 http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
Here's the link to the Official Transcribers
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

Here is a link to Trove, the free to search website from the National Library of Australia. There's digitised newspapers there.  Perhaps there's details about Donald or Mary or their families. http://trove.nla.gov.au/

The Qld BDM online index has the marriage as 2 August 1911, Donald McINNES and Mary Fredrica SLATTERY.  (#C3468)
There is a death registration for a Donald McINNES, in 1947 (C2509),  with parents as John McINNES and Mary McPHERSON   There is also a death registration for a Donald MCINNES with same parents names and a death in 1923.  (C2676)  So there is at least two Donalds to sort out.
https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/

Cheers,  JM

Add Here's a link to your earlier thread about Donald McInnes http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=660625.0,
 includes a live link to his obit.... http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/62901622 9 June 1947.... seems he was in his 80th year, so born about 1867ish....  :)

Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Friday 29 January 16 00:35 GMT (UK)
From marriage certificate - Donald married Mary Fredrica Slattery at St Joseph's Presbytery, Townsville on 2nd August 1911. # status - bachelor. # birthplace - Taree Estates, NSW. # Occupation - Exporter. # fathers Name - John McInnes. (occupation - Farmer)# Mothers Name - Mary McPherson
From his death notice in the Townsville Daily bulletin on Monday 9th June 1945 - The death occurred in Townsville on Sunday night of Mr. Donald McInnes, In his 80th year and North Queensland -lost one of its most colorful characters. Generous to a fault, he will be missed by a circle of friends who are scattered all over Australia.
Don-McInnes was a native of New South Wales. He was born at Taree, on the Manning River, and. was one of a family of eleven children— ten sons and one daughter. After leaving school he took up butchering and worked at Lismore, where he delivered meat to farms on the Clarence River by punt, and took produce back to the town.
THE LATE Mr. MclNNES
Gold was being found in various places in West Australia, and young, McInnes went there, and supplied meat to -the diggers. Then he went across to the Rand, in South Africa. When the Boer War broke out he engaged, in the import of horses from Australia, and he also imported huge numbers of cattle and sheep. His activities brought him much success. He took an Interest in racing, and /often told of his disgust at losing a Johannesburg Cup— because the judge did not see the Mc Innes colors out wide under the box. From South Africa, Mr. McInnes went to the Philippine Islands. He opened a horse bazaar In Manila and did a steady trade In Stock imported from Australia, mostly from Townsville, where the late Mr. Jack Fanning selected many horses and ponies for him. Every trip to the East the old Taiyuan and Changaha carried stock from Townsville to Manila for the McInnes bazaar. It was in 1909 that Mr. McInnes came to Townsville. He had met with an accident, and broken a leg, and it was still in splints when he boarded the steamer In Manila. When he was well again he conducted his horse shipping business from North Queensland. He acquired a large area of land at Rosslea Estate, and built a comfort able home on the bank of Ross River. His holding included the present golf links and much other land, which was later cut up into blocks and built upon. It was natural for a man with his interests to become interested in Townsville racing. He raced several horses at Cluden, but saw the possibilities of race promotion himself and ran unregistered racing at Cleveland. Going back to the registered ranks, Mr. Mclnnes raced at Cluden again, and also became a bookmaker. He was very successful and built fine premises in Flinders Street, where he announced himself as 'the right man on the wrong side.'

Donald had died before I met and married his grand-daughter Anne but Nana Mary lived until she was 103. Anne and I had a lot to do with Nana Mary but she never revealed much of her husbands life before they married. Don was 37 and Mary 17 when they married.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 00:58 GMT (UK)
May I ask about the Qld marriage certificate....

From that document, what information did Donald give about himself .....

Was there a middle name mentioned on that document perhaps?  NO
His then age   37
His then occupation EXPORTER
His status .... was he a bachelor when he married in 1911  BACHELOR
His Dad's name and occupation .... was Dad noted as deceased on that document  John MCINNES, farmer (not noted as deceased)
His Mum's name and any former names ... was Mum noted as deceased on that document Mary MCPHERSON
His place of birth  Taree Estates, NSW

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18783228 Maitland Mercury 11 April 1874
cutting re McINNIS and accident to a son at Taree Estates, Manning River .

NSW 1870 Electoral Roll, THE HASTINGS
John McINNES, residence, Taree, Manning River Police District.
Henry FLETT, freehold, Taree House, Taree

http://austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=281  Taree Estate Private Cemetery

Greville's Post Office Directory 1875 TAREE
H McPHERSON, Dumaresque Island, farmer

NSW ER 1878 THE HASTINGS
John McINNES, residence, Taree Estate, Manning District,
Hugh McPHERSON, residence, Dumaresq  Island, Manning District.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 01:07 GMT (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18800250   9 Nov 1875 Maitland Mercury.

On Thursday, the 16th September, at Ringwood Station, Hunter River, by the Rev. Mr. Donald James, eldest son of Mr. John McInnis, of Taree Estate, to Mary Miller, third eldest daughter of Thomas Dunn, Esq., of Ringwood, Hunter River

 Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 03:01 GMT (UK)
From my armchair, the following MAY and of course MAY NOT be connected to your Don McINNES’ ancestors.  But hopefully, these snippets will be encouraging for you to continue to seek out his origins. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/674035  Maitland Mercury 12 Oct 1853
John McInnes marriage.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTC1-KB4


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18901137 Maitland Mercury 16 April 1887
Died on 30 March 1887, at his residence, Dunmore, John McINNES, son of the late Duncan McINNES of Invernesshire, Scotland, leaving a wife, nine sons and four daughters and a large circle of friends to mourn their loss.   Aged 62 years.  Melbourne papers please copy.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB6-5CN8

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13575891 SMH 20 Dec 1884
McINNES-SPEAKMAN, Dec 10th, at the Scots Church, Collins St, Melbourne by the Rev George Dods, MA BD,  John Thompson McINNES, of Sydney, eldest son of John McInnes, Esq, late of Glendell Invernessshire, Scotland to Annie, youngest daughter of Edward Speakman, Esq, merchant Melbourne.


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71736030  Northern Star, Lismore 12 Sept 1891
Hugh McInnes of Ballina, second youngest son of John McInnes, farmer of Manning River…..

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18697205 Maitland Mercury 27 March 1866
(Auction Sales at West Maitland)
Freehold Properties
Lot 1
Manning River 45 Acres (more or less) known as formerly the property of John MCINNES, and originally granted to Beattie and Simpson; alluvial soil, considerably improved

National Directory 1867
McINNES, J., Taree
FLETT H, Taree house

Here is a live link to an transcript from the Index to Bounty Immigrants.   It has a John McINNES aged 19, arriving on the ship Anne Milne 17 Jan 1842.   He was of Kilmallie, Inverness.  His parents names: Allan McINNES and Ann McPHEE.   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL27-6XF

There’s at least THREE chaps named John McINNES in the 1891 NSW householders census documents. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKKQ-NXTX  The Manning
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKKQ-N82L The Manning
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKKQ-FRKP Lismore


I think you may need to research the Wynter-Flett Taree Estates and the John McINNES of there before you go back any further generations.   


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 03:11 GMT (UK)
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4782/Anne%20Milne_17%20Jan%201842/4_478200140.jpg&No=6

This link should take you to the image of the passenger list for the ship Anne Milne's Single Men arriving 1842

Alex aged 18 and John aged 19, Ag labourers, both of Inverness  :)  perhaps worth checking if they are related to each other (brothers, cousins etc)

ADD
Checking the alternative spelling for the ship http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2555541 18 Jan 1842  Sydney Gaz.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dundee on Friday 29 January 16 04:09 GMT (UK)
MRS. CATHERINE BIGNELL

A former well-known resident of the Manning, in the person of Mrs. Catherine Bignell, relict of the late George Septimus Bignell, passed away at her home in Woollahra on Sunday last, aged 74 years. Deceased was a daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Mclnnes, ot Kimbriki, and after her marriage she lived at Croki, where her husband conducted a shop and was also employed on the North Coast wharf. Later she lived at Taree and some years ago moved to Woollahra. She is survived by three daughters and one son. A second son predeceased her. Brothers are Messrs. John Mclnnes (Lakemba), Donald Mclnnes (Townsville), and Daniel Mclnnes (Sydney). Another brother, James, died at Kendall. The remains were interred in the South Head cemetery on Monday afternoon.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/161993629

The death of their parents - John in 1902 and Mary in 1903:

 Obituary.

MR. & MRS JOHN McINNES.

[CONTRIBUTED.] 

It is not without feelings of profound regret that we note from time to time the demise of many of our old landmarks. Only a few weeks ago in one of your issues was chronicled the death of Mr. John McInnes, formerly of Taree Estate, and now I am informed of the death of his wife, who only survived him by eight weeks. Their married life was an exceptionally long one, having entered the bonds of matrimony in the year 1848 — hence they were 55 years married. From the Hunter district they came   to the Manning in the primeval days of 1856, and went through the usual ordeal of pioneer farming times, with more or less success. Their family consisted of 8 sons and 3 daughters, and of the latter only Mrs Bignell, of Taree survives them. The sons are all fairly prosperous in their various spheres of life, and it may be edifying to their many friends to know that they rendered every assistance that filial duty and affection could suggest to soothe the last years and days of their old and respected parents. It was the writer's mournful pleasure to pay a visit to Mr McInnes, only a few hours prior to his death, and was met with that genial smile so characteristic of him all through life. He was quite collected and prepared to die, suffering not the slightest pain, his affectionate wife administering to his wants with that zeal and attachment which made her revered and esteemed of all. Truly it might be said of them, "in life they were attached, in death they were not divided."

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/172996588

Mary's death notice:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71477884

16440/1902
MACINNES, JOHN
Father: ANGUS
WATERLOO

4200/1903
MACINNIS, MARY
Father: ARCHIBALD
WATERLOO

I cannot find this - "...Only a few weeks ago in one of your issues was chronicled the death of Mr. John McInnes, formerly of Taree Estate..."

I cannot see a marriage around 1848 in NSW.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 04:39 GMT (UK)
Agh, follow up from Debra's work

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14488435 SMH 10 Dec 1902 

McINNIS.-December 6, at his late residence; 84 Pitt Street, Waterloo, John Mclnnis, late of Taree Estate, Manning River, aged 77. At rest.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 29 January 16 05:20 GMT (UK)

The obit for Donald is in the paper 6 June 1947..........in his 80th year. It would fit Donald, and possibly this family -

All registered Maitland......all parents John / Mary

5689/1856  MCGINNES          Duncan
8712/1858  MCGUINNESS      Flora A
 8940/1858  MCINNIS            John
 8932/1861  MCINNES           James
 9255/1863  MCINNES           Catherine
 10583/1865  MCINNES         Alexander
 10394/1865  MCGUINNESS   Catherine
 11456/1867  MCINNES         Donald   ( b. 4 Jul 1867)
 13400/1869  MCINNES         Myles
 12186/1872  MCINNES         Angus
 13369/1874  MCINNES         Margaret
14170/1876  MCINNES           Mary
 15483/1878  MCINNES          Hugh
 

...but mother Mary d. 1903 would need to be younger than 80 years old given in the death notice.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dundee on Friday 29 January 16 06:31 GMT (UK)
.... and Catherine was born c1857.

This might be brother John:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/172278839

Death of Hugh McINNES

Death of Mr. Hugh McInnes - On Tuesday last, Mrs. Bignell, of Taree, received the sad intelligence by telegram of the death of her brother, Mr. Hugh Mclnnes, of Leichhardt, who died that morning from appendicitis in the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital. An operation had been successfully performed, but Mr. Mclnnes took a turn for the worse. He leaves a widow and five children . The news came as quite a shock, as it was not known here that Mr. Mclnnes was ill. The deceased, who was 36 years of age, served his apprenticeship in the old Advocate Office at Wingham, and up till about two years ago was editing a paper on the Richmond River, where he had been connected with press and printing matters at Lismore and Ballina. From there he went to Leichhardt, where he purchased a job printing office, which he was conducting up to the time of his death. He was a son of the late Mr. John Mclnnes, who for 25 years resided on Taree Estate. Mrs. Bignell, of Taree, was deceased's only sister, but he had several brothers, viz., Allan, who is at present in South Africa ; Angus and Alec., both in Sydney ; John and James, of Laurieton ; and Daniel, of the Clarence. He was also an uncle of Mrs. H. H. Kirton, of Taree. This is the second death in the family during the past few weeks, and much sympathy is felt for the bereaved relatives.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/172824126

11674/1870
MACINNIS,   ALLAN
Parents: JOHN &   MARY MCPHERSON
MANNING RIVER

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 06:51 GMT (UK)
NSW ER 1903  COWPER polling at Taree
BIGNELL
Charlotte, of Taree, domestic duties
Herbert Joseph, of Taree, agent
Kate, of Taree, dressmaker.

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 29 January 16 06:59 GMT (UK)
Sands Directory 1920

John McINNES, grazier, Jones' Island.
Herbert BIGNELL 55 Military Road, Neutral Bay.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Saturday 30 January 16 00:28 GMT (UK)
Hi majm and Dundee, Thanks for the wealth of information that you have sent through.
My main problem is that either the obituary on Donald McInnes in the Townsville Bulletin 9/6/1947 where it is stated that Donald is one of eleven(11) children - ten sons and one daughter or children to John and Mary were born outside N.S.W. My searches reveal 7 boys and 3 girls recorded under Maitland - 1861 James, 1863 Catherine, 1865 Alexander, 1867 Donald ( possible grandfather), 1869 Myles, 1872 Angus, 1874 Margaret, 1876 Mary, 1878 Hugh and 1880 John William and under Manning River only 2 boys - 1864 Alexander and 1866 Angus.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Saturday 30 January 16 00:37 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

NSW Civil Birth registrations commenced back in 1856.   If you were to seek out an official transcription of the likely youngest, OR at least for the likely Donald, then you should expect to learn details about not just the baby whose birth is being registered, but about his parents, (their then ages, where they were born, married, Dad's occupation, usual address etc) but also about the older brothers/sisters of the baby being registered.  (Often their names and ages if alive at the time, and at least the gender and possibly the ages of any babies who had already succumbed).

Obits can of course have flawed info, perhaps the reporter mis-heard, or mis-read the notes taken, or perhaps the grieving family member providing the info to the newspaper reporter was relying on memory and distracted by other family members needing to be comforted. 

NOT ALL civil registrations from rural districts were received or fully processed at the Registrar Generals Offices in Sydney.   There was no formal 'follow up' in that era if a quarterly return to the Sydney HQ was not received, or not processed.  Post WWI the system became more formalised.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 31 January 16 02:47 GMT (UK)

4200/1903
MACINNIS, MARY
Father: ARCHIBALD
WATERLOO

Debra  :)

I think it likely that Mary McINNES's (nee McPHERSON) mother's name was Margaret.
There are a number of newspaper references to  Archibald. Here are some in connection to the marriages of his children.

On Thursday, the 16th February, at St. Bridgets, Raymond Terrace, by the Rev. T. A. Lonergan, Alexander, second son of John McDonald, Four-Mile Creek, to Flora Ann, youngest daughter of Mr. Archibald McPherson.

The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Saturday 4 March 1871

In 1863
GOSLING—McPHERSON—On the 4th May, at Sydney, by the Rev. Dr. Fullerton, Mr. Edward Gosling, to Jessie, eldest daughter of Mr.Archibald McPherson.

 
Marriage
December the 7th, by special license, at St. Bridget's, Raymond Terrace, by the Rev. P. J. O'Quinlian, Alexander Brilliant, fourth son of Archibald McPherson, Miller's Forest, to Emily Adline, second daughter of James Bignell, Bandon Grove.

 
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 21 December 1867

Interesting to note it appears his niece Catherine, daughter of Mary McINNES, also married a BIGNELL

Deaths.
 Died, 11th June, at Miller's Forest, Margaret, the beloved wife of Archibald McPherson, aged 88 years, leaving a family and a large circle of friends and relations. Dearly beloved by all who knew her.
18th June 1885. Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser.

Index of the death
8050/1886  MCPHERSON Margaret
Father JAMES
Died The Clarence
MACLEAN

In Memoriam a couple of years later-
In loving remembrance of my dear mother, Mrs. Archibald
McPherson, who died 11th June, 1885, at Miller's Forest.
 Dear mother, how I miss thy face
When darkening shades appear; ……………etc.
  Inserted by her loving daughter, F. A. Macdonald
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 11 June 1887

Died, 7th July, at Miller's Forest, Archibald McPherson, aged 95 years, leaving a family and a large circle of friends and relations. Dearly beloved by all who knew him.
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 23 July 1887

An Obituary
  Mr. Archibald McPherson, one of the oldest Residents of Miller's Forrest, passed away to the     silent majority yesterday evening. He had attained the good     age of 95 years. Up to within a few days of his Death he was well able to get about. He leaves perhaps the greatest number of Relations belonging to one Family in the District to mourn their loss. He was ever a kind father & true Husband & leaves this World of woe without a stain on his character. His remains were Interred to-day (Friday).   RAYMOND TERRACE, 8th July, 1887.        
                     
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser  Saturday 9 July 1887

This looks like Archibald arriving-
Index to Persons on Government ships Aug 1837-Feb 1840
   
 McPHERSON Archibald. Aged 36. Ship Brilliant.. Date 24/01/1838. Pg 037. Reel 2654. Item [4/4780]

And his wife included here
Index to Miscellaneous Immigrants
     
Ship Brilliant    Name MCPHERSON Archibald. Aged 36. Date 24/01/1838. Reel 2654. Pg 37 Item [4/4780]. Remarks Wife 35; farm servant. Series NRS 5313   

Index to deceased estates-
MCPHERSON   Archibald Locality Millers Forest. Date   07/07/1887. Date duty paid 19/09/1888.Item [19/10184];Reel  [20/3025      
 

Sue

Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 31 January 16 05:22 GMT (UK)
..... and under Manning River only 2 boys - 1864 Alexander and 1866 Angus.

I can see Archibald (1862), Alexander (1864), Angus (1866), Hugh (1868), and Allan (1870).

Unfortunately it isn't as easy as just looking up the indexes and finding every child and I suspect that the Maitland family is not connected to the Manning River family.

As we know that Catherine had brothers Hugh, Allan, and Donald in Townsville I would be getting either of her parents death certs for a list of children and their ages and to also confirm the McPHERSON name.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: majm on Sunday 31 January 16 05:53 GMT (UK)
Yes,  I am doubtful about the Maitland family, and yes, I agree, it is not as easy as looking up indexes .... NSW BDM indexes are only an aid, they point to actual BDM official documents.  You need to scrutinise the information recorded on the document. 

Official transcriptions for the NSW BDM documents are reliable, and are well recognised by family history buffs as an excellent way to obtain the information from the official records without getting the watermarked certified document required by say the NSW Supreme Court in sorting a legal dispute over the distribution of a deceased estate. 

Cheers,  JM 
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Sunday 31 January 16 10:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone who has contributed to my quest!
If you find any more info please post it for me, I certainly have a bit to go through.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: jj227 on Monday 08 January 18 13:00 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm descended from Donald's brother John McInnes who died 31 October 1947 aged 88 and am having the same trouble identifying the birth details.

I known of another brother James McInnes who died 11 September 1922 aged 71

Both John and James have John McInnes and Mary McPherson listed on their death certificates.

John is my Great Great Grandfather and he is supposed to be born at Bo Bo Creek about 1858

regards Ann
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Tuesday 09 January 18 02:39 GMT (UK)
I have been told that my relative Donald McInnes, used his second name when he moved to Townsville? Is there an Albert Donald McInnes? His marriage certificate records him as Donald?
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: jj227 on Tuesday 09 January 18 09:54 GMT (UK)
I can remember my mother saying that she heard her Great Grandfather John talked about his brother who went to Townsville and he only ever called him Donald.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: Dunganess on Wednesday 17 January 18 09:11 GMT (UK)
Could you list John McInnes's siblings so I can check them with my records and try to find the link. His obituary mentions a number of brothers and that he came from the Clarence River area where he delivered meat. He also owned race horses in Townsville and raced them in South Africa.
Any information would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
Post by: jj227 on Wednesday 17 January 18 12:08 GMT (UK)
John McInnes (b: Bo BO Creek, Wingham, NSW; D: 31 October 1947 - Gymea Bay, NSW aged 88) m: 31 August 1881 at Jones Island, Manning River, NSW to Margaret Hinten (b: 17 April 1861 - Purfleet, Manning River, NSW; D: 17 March 1924 - Lakemba, NSW)

It was this John that my mother remembered meeting and he was her Great Grandfather.

Obit: Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of New South Wales (Taree, NSW : 1898 - 1954), Wednesday 5 November 1947, page 2
________________________________________
MR. J. A. McINNES.
A former well known and very highly respected resident of the Manning in the person of Mr. J. A. Mc-Innes, of 58 Ellesmere Road, Gymea Bay, passed away on Friday last, at the age of 88 years. The late Mr. Mclnnes. resided for many years on Jones' Island, at the Croki-Coopernook turn, which was known as 'McInnes' Corner.' The property was purchased by Mr. Reg. Emerton. He had many friends throughout the district. Mr. McInnes dealt extensively in cattle whilst on the Manning. Many years ago Mr. Mclnnes moved to Sydney. Several years ago he had both legs amputated. A son (George) predeceased his father. Surviving members of the family are: Mr. Jas. McInnes (retired teacher), Mr. John McInnes (Ross Glen), Mr. Hugh McInnes (Sydney), Mrs. Lappin (Sydney), Mrs. Newton Lee (Sydney), Mrs. Buttsworth (Sydney), Miss Amy Mc-Innes (Sydney), and Mrs. Border (Sydney).

James McInnes (b:  Miilers Forest near Maitland, NSW; D: 11 September 1922 - Kendall, NSW aged 71) m: 1875, aged 25, to Mary Miller Dun

John's son John McKinnon McInnes and James's son John Allan McInnes, were first cousins who ran a saw mill at Ross Glenn near Kendall.

I know that there Was Donald who went to Townsville.

According to some obituaries on Trove there was a Hugh McInnes (D: 1906 - Obituary states: He was a son of the late Mr. John Mclnnes, who for 25 years resided on Taree Estate. Mrs. Bignell, of Taree, was deceased's only sister, but he had several brothers, viz., Allan, who is at present in South Africa ; Angus and Alex., both in Sydney ; John and James, of Laurieton ; and Daniel, on the Clarence) this makes me suspect that Donald may be Allan.

The John and James of Laurieton are the two above, with John being my Great Great Grandfather.

regards Ann