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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: moo on Friday 29 January 16 12:53 GMT (UK)
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Good Afternoon,
I have a brick wall my tree regarding Harry Beaumont - the only information I have is that he married a divorcee called Doreen Dudley (maiden name Swift) in 1956 Dewsbury. Family info is that at some point he left her to join up with some militia group, and disappeared. Doreen is then said to have had him declared deceased so she could later re-marry. Any help on where to start would be most gratefully received.
Regards Moo
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The only place to start as far as I can see with such limited information - I cannot even begin to guess how many Harry Beaumonts there are in Yorkshire ;) - is to get the marriage certificate
Marriages Mar 1956
Beaumont Harry Dudley Dewsbury 2b 828
Dudley Doreen Beaumont Dewsbury 2b 828
£9.25 from GRO online. From there you will see his age, address & father's name & occupation then may be able to trace his birth from baptisms [which may show mother's name & then you may get his parents' marriage certificate & then back to the censuses] & family from electoral rolls etc.
You can try local archives for newspaper reports, but it is probably too recent to feature in online archives, as will any military records.
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Thank you Josey - certificate ordered ;D
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Great; come back with the details when it's arrived & we can take it from there.
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Good Afternoon
The certificate arrived today, the details for Harry are as follows
Aged 26 making his year of birth 1930, Bachelor, Brewery Representative, 4 The Green, Ossett, Fathers name Joseph Dent Beaumont window cleaner (master).
Fingers crossed that someone may help shed some light on who / what / when and where
Regards
Moo
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OK, thanks. It seems your Harry may possibly still be alive; you probably know that rootschat have a policy of not mentioning the names in that case. I suggest that anyone with information regarding him contacts you by personal message [pm].
Knowing his father's name will make it possible to trace his family back, but I am not sure this is your interest?
I found 2 possible deaths in England
Name: Harry Beaumont
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1930
Date of Registration: Mar 2001
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Register Number: B46C
District and Subdistrict: 3941B
Entry Number: 253
Name: Harry Beaumont
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1929
Date of Registration: May 2004
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Knowsley
Inferred County: Merseyside
Register Number: A47
District and Subdistrict: 023/1A
Entry Number: 35
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXW3-C8H
This looks to be his father
Margp
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Here's Joseph's marriage
Name: Joseph Dent Beaumont
Birth Year: abt 1908
Marriage or Bann Date: 13 Apr 1929
Spouse: Hilda Tennings [should be Jennings]
Father: Harry Beaumont
Spouse Father: Albert Edward Tennings
so the birth you are interested in
Births Mar 1930
Beaumont Male [I have removed name] Mother's maiden name Jennings Dewsbury 9b 750
Meaning your man was probably born between late December 1929 & 31 Mar 1930 - possibly the 2001 death in reply #5.
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This may be the marriage
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV89-88NQ
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There's some here about 'declaration of decease'
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Legal+Death+and+Missing+Persons
I know the law changed in 2014 so you'll need to research the process & records before that date. There are many possibilities of a 2nd marriage for his first wife if indeed the story is true.
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HB probably had a brother in 1942 [search for Beaumont birth with MMN Jennings 1930 - 1945 on freebmd.org for the name]. It may be worth trying social media for him.
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Thank you all for the help so far,
I am beginning to smell a rat lol, the aunt in question remarried in 1985 Louth, which looking at the records seemed a strange place to get married (might have to order that certificate) when they both lived in Dewsbury, are there any records that would show if there had been any divorce.
Regards
Moo
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Ah yes, the certificate will state her status, though in 1985 I am not sure what official checks will have been made.
I believe some divorce records are at the National Archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorces/
but whether recent records are available I don't know.
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Its possible Harry Beaumont got called up under national service for 2 years around the time of the Suez or Cyrus zones or Germany where troops were sent in the 1950's- new Horizons of life's choice (another woman out there.? )
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Yes, of course, so the 'militia/military' part of the story could be true.
I'd forgotten your other thread here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=740354.msg5867061#msg5867061
where there is some info from stanmapstone.
Have you looked for a 2nd marriage for HB? I would be inclined to get the 2001 death certificate, then if it appears to be 'your' Harry - his birth certificate will give accurate dob if you do not already know it - then search the electoral roll pre that year [you may have to go to a Derby Library to do this].
Are you looking to find out what happened to HB? Or just whether his 1st wife had him declared deceased?
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Thank you Dobfarm , I shall certainly look in to that.
Josey, I would like to know what happened to him, if he did remarry etc, so it looks like I shall have to order the birth and death and see if they match (bank balance allowing lol). I try to follow each spouse to the end of life, and so far my lot seem to get married 3 or 4 times.
Regards
Marion
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Thank you Dobfarm , I shall certainly look in to that.
Josey, I would like to know what happened to him, if he did remarry etc, so it looks like I shall have to order the birth and death and see if they match (bank balance allowing lol). I try to follow each spouse to the end of life, and so far my lot seem to get married 3 or 4 times.
Regards
Marion
Many strange changes happen or possibles
A joke at the pub I heard a while back.
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Woman says to a friend- "My hubby has run off with the next door neighbour"-Friend says " how's her husband taking it" -Woman says " I don't know ! its him my husband ran off with" ;D
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Good Morning
Quick update with a question.
I ordered the death certificate for a Harry Beaumont 2001, and there is not a lot of information on it the person registering the death Qualification is given as "Causing the body to be cremated".
It does give a date of birth as 22/02/1930 and gives his place of birth as Batley Yorkshire
I have searched for other HB born in the Yorkshire and this is the only one. The GRO ref (which was kindly given to me earlier in the post) Dewsbury 9b 750 1930 j/f/m seems to match. Then a quick check on the 1939 Register gives a preview of Harry Beaumont born 1930 living Batley Yorkshire, with a Joseph D Beaumont ( Harry's father's name from marriage certificate) and one other person in household.
My question is in 1930 would Batley be recorded in the GRO as Dewsbury ?
Regards
Moo
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1939 Register
I down loaded the image and the birth date is a match. ;D
Regards
Moo
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1939 Register
I down loaded the image and the birth date is a match. ;D
Regards
Moo
Hi Moo
See Dewsbury chart in link
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/dewsbury.html
Batley was in Dewsbury reg district 1837 to 1938 (1930 in them parameters years) then in Jan 1st 1939 moved to Spen valley District. (See table 2f at bottom of page in the link)
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Thank you dobfarm,
Think I can safely say I have found my man ;D
Regards
Moo
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Thank you dobfarm,
Think I can safely say I have found my man ;D
Regards
Moo
I second that as - a confirmed Yes . :)
Not that there was any completion of other HB's