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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: EricS on Wednesday 09 March 16 10:13 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for the birth of a John Mohide and his sister Anne Mohide between about 1897 and 1899. They may have been twins. Their mother, Catherine Mohide may not have been married at the time of the birth of John and/or Anne. There is a civil record of the birth of an Anne Mohide in 1897 and I've ordered a copy to check whether it is the correct person. However, I've no trace whatsoever of John. John may have been baptised / registered under a different surname. He had the Mohide surname in later life when he moved to Liverpool - he died there in 1970. I understand that he served in the British Army in WW1 but can find no record. I know that their mother Catherine Mohide married a Patrick Kelly a few years later in 1901, and they had another child Patrick in 1902, but I don't know if she had been married previously.
Anne became known as Annie Kelly (and married James Lynch in 1920). She shows up in the 1911 census living in Shronell with parents Patrick and Kate, and brother Pat. However, the census makes no mention of her brother John and says that Patrick and Kate had been married for 14 years - clearly wrong if they only married in 1901. Unless I have the wrong family but I don't believe I do.
I believe that all of these events happened within the parish of Lattin. However, the RC parish records for Lattin Baptisms & Marriages only seem to cover from late 1846 to about January 1882. Where do I go for their parish records after that date? Is it worth the relatively expensive price to check out RootsIreland to see if their parish records cover beyond that date for Lattin?
I'd really appreciate any light that can be thrown on any of the above.
Thanks,
Eric
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Hi Eric
I'll check for you
P J
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Consider these a grandmother of same name with two grandchildren with same first names
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Bansha/Ballinlough_East/1716404/
her name could be Catherine Dwyer wife of Michael Mohide
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F58R-W45
Kate Mohide age a few years out
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lattin/Lattin_West/1718336/
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Have you the marriage cert for Catherine and Patrick Kelly which should give her fathers name
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/fc62ce6883043
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Have you the marriage cert for Catherine and Patrick Kelly which should give her fathers name
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/fc62ce6883043
Also ordered along with the 1897 birth of Anne Mohide. Will update the message when I get the certs.
What I'm really after is the Lattin parish records - do you know if/how these can be accessed beyond those available online or at the NLI?
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Details of marriage Catherine Mohide and Patrick Kelly
14-Jul-1901
Parish / District: EMLY County: Co. Tipperary
Husband Wife
Name: Patrick Kelly Catherine Mohide
Address: Lattin Lattin
Denomination: Civil Parish Civil Parish
Occupation: LABOURER SERVANT
Age: Full Age (Over 21) Full Age (Over 21)
Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Patrick Kelly Michael Mohide
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation: LABOURER LABOURER Witness
Name: Patrick McCarthy Mary Mohide
PRIEST; M P O'NEILL
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Many thanks for that marriage information. Did you get that via RootsIreland and if so are there any records for the baptism of John & Anne between 1897 & 1899 in Lattin?
Eric
Details of marriage Catherine Mohide and Patrick Kelly
14-Jul-1901
Parish / District: EMLY County: Co. Tipperary
Husband Wife
Name: Patrick Kelly Catherine Mohide
Address: Lattin Lattin
Denomination: Civil Parish Civil Parish
Occupation: LABOURER SERVANT
Age: Full Age (Over 21) Full Age (Over 21)
Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Patrick Kelly Michael Mohide
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation: LABOURER LABOURER Witness
Name: Patrick McCarthy Mary Mohide
PRIEST; M P O'NEILL
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No record of John but birth record for ann
Ann Mohide Date of Birth 01-Nov-1897
Registration Date: 04-Nov-1897
Address: Union Workhouse Tipperary Parish/District: TIPPERARY
Gender: Female County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Unknown Mohide Mother: Kate Mohide
Occupation: Unknown
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: W. Godfrey Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
There is also aMary Mohide mother Catherine Mohide a coincidence? Mary Molhide Date of Birth: 15-Mar-1896
Registration Date: 31-Mar-1896
Address: Kilmallock Work House Parish/District: KILMALLOCK
Gender: Female County Co. Limerick
Denomination: Civil Record
Father: Not Recorded Not Recorded Mother: Catherine Molhide
Occupation: Not Recorded
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: James Begley Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
UNDER MOTHER'S DETAILS THE WORD 'FORMERLY' IS CROSSED OUT.
also found a John Mohide travelling to Quebec Montreal from Liverpool 10 Aug 1928 age 31 and last residence given as Clarkstown Ireland this could be Clerkstown which is in Lattin parish. Listed on passenger list as Harvesters - I don't think this is the name of the ship. Ship's name is Duchess of Atholl. Were there seasonal workers to Canada?
annclare
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Many thanks Ann Clare - great information there :D
Eric
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Hi Eric
Back to you, but with bad news . No Mohide baptized in Lattin all the way up to 1899 . Maybe they were baptized in Tipp town .I see Kate a servant in Lattin West in the 1901 census but where are the kids . No sign of Annie in county Tipp.
P J
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Hi,
I am not sure I can be of much help about John but Annie was my Grandmother. My father James Lynch was born in October 1923 to Annie (nee Kelly) and James Lynch (snr.). They had six children Catherine (Kitty) Nelly, Nancy, James, John, and Theresa. Regretfully James (snr.) was the victim of a shooting in 1939 and died leaving a very young family, he was 46 years of age. Annie stayed in Ireland for many years, she went to live in England with her son for a brief spell but returned home circa 1969 when she died. The shock of losing her husband in such an awful fashion was too much for Annie and I understand she never really recovered from the horror of it all.
Her brother Patrick (Packie) Kelly died when I was quite small, I would think the early 1970's. He never married.
My mother or my eldest brother may know more. My Father died in 2001 and so I cannot ask him and all of his siblings have passed away too.
I hope this helps in some way. x
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I am fascinated to see this information as I am a descendant of Catherine Mohide
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Welcome to RootsChat, Ian :)
Is this your Catherine in 1901 census at Lattin West, Tipperary? (see also reply #2)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lattin/Lattin_West/1718336/
Lattin West townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/clanwilliam/lattin/lattin/lattin-west/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5626707#map=13/52.4702/-8.2108
KG
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Yes, that is Catherine, born 1873, her Father was Michael and Mother also Catherine (nee Dwyer)
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Kate Mohide was born in Corderry on 21st June 1873 to Michael and
Catherine Dwyer
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03184/2167697.pdf
The Mohides are buried in Clonbeg
In loving memory/ of/ William Mohide/ Corderry & Bansha./ 1884-1941/. His wife
Bridget Mohide/ (nee Carey)/ interred in Cashel/His brother Thomas Mohide/
1862-1946// his sister Hanora Crowe/ Kilross 1869-1951/ Their parents Michael
Mohide/ 1829 - 1895/Kitty O'Dwyer Mohide/ All members of the Mohide / family
buried in this/ plot/ Beatha Siorai Dóibh/ erected by his daughter/
Catherine Mohide
Patrick Kelly of Clerkstown is buried in Lattin he died on 10th July 1972
Would anyone have a photograph of Patrick Kelly
P J
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Kate Mohide was born in Corderry..........
Corderry townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/clanwilliam/clonbeg/clonbeg/corderry/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5626680#map=13/52.4369/-8.2198
KG
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In loving memory/ of/ William Mohide/ Corderry & Bansha./ 1884-1941/..........His brother Thomas Mohide/1862-1946/
Death record for William Mohide in 1941 at District Hospital, Tipperary.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04704/4256015.pdf
Death record for Thomas mohide in 1946 at Ardrahan (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1946/04606/4220894.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/coshlea/galbally/galbally/ardrahin/
KG
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this is all so amazing, thank you all.
The one ancestor that alludes everybody is the Father of Conor Mohide (or Mohoid) whose name is not known.
Conor Mohide was born in 1785. He was the son of Officer Mohide (believed to have served in the French Legion Etrangere before returning to Ireland with his wife, who was an Unknown Frenchwoman).
Conor married Hanora O'Brien or Brien in 1809. They had six children, who children were born or baptized in Corderry, Co Tip, or Galbally, Co Limerick and were named Conor b.1810, Ann b.1810, Timothy b.1813, Mary b.1818, Patrick b.1820 and Micheal b. 1829.
Is it possible there are any clues to their details anywhere?