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Title: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: SurfinNan on Thursday 02 June 16 02:23 BST (UK)
Please could someone tell me where the town mentioned in the attachment is located. I don't seem to be able to find it on google maps. I could be reading it wrong. Is it near Ballybrittas? On some records it says Ballybrittas or near Ballybrittas.
Thank you
Evelyn

Researching: James Henry Molloy born C 1800-1813 Queens County; enlisted in Kings Own 4th Foot, 1830; Served in Aust colonies and India; Discharged 1851; Fairlie 1852 with a family as convict guard; Marr Charlotte Kennett 1874, Victoria; 4th Waikato Militia 1864;Fiji 1871; Died 1894 Fiji.
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: mirl on Thursday 02 June 16 03:17 BST (UK)
Not familiar with the area at all but try this link to GenUKI

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=DOW,LAT=53.132456,LON=-7.148557,DISTANCE=10,PN=
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 02 June 16 08:38 BST (UK)
http://www.logainm.ie/en/28556?s=Mountmellick

if you Zoom in you will see Ballybrittas
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 02 June 16 08:43 BST (UK)
http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=in%3a100017&cat=PAR&pag=-1&ord=ga  gets you all the Civil Parishes in the County.
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 02 June 16 08:43 BST (UK)
Ballybrittas is a townland- see here for map giving exact location, etc.-
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/portnahinch/lea/ballybrittas/ballybrittas/
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: SurfinNan on Thursday 02 June 16 09:49 BST (UK)
If the town is Mountmellick then what would the parish be? On the attachment it looks like it starts with a T but I can not find one that is suitable.

Thank you
Evelyn
Western Australia
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 02 June 16 10:19 BST (UK)
It's Killenard;
There is an old headstone in Killenard for Molloy;
erected by Elizabeth Molloy for
husband-Anthony Molloy; 1862 (62)
son-Peter; 1851 (17)
above Elizabeth; 1885 (73)
=====================
Jack
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: SurfinNan on Thursday 02 June 16 12:24 BST (UK)
Killenard doesn't seem to have been a parish. Mountmellick is not in Killenard. The beginning of the parish name looks the same as the beginning of his age which seems to be twenty. I am confused. The only thing I am sure about is they're both in Laois.
Sorry if I am being pedantic.
Evelyn
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: conahy calling on Thursday 02 June 16 12:41 BST (UK)
http://killenard.com/

Links about Killenard.

http://www.portarlingtonparish.ie/churcheslist/st-john%E2%80%99s-church-killenard/

I can see what you mean by letter "T" of "Twenty".  The upper right part of letter K is feint. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 02 June 16 14:54 BST (UK)
Killenard doesn't seem to have been a parish. Mountmellick is not in Killenard. The beginning of the parish name looks the same as the beginning of his age which seems to be twenty. I am confused. The only thing I am sure about is they're both in Laois.
Sorry if I am being pedantic.
Evelyn

It doesn't appear in any of the Civil or RC parish lists but it does have a church.
From this http://www.portarlingtonparish.ie/map/ it appears to be a small RC parish which comes under
Portarlington. If you zoom out a bit on the map you can see it a little south east of Portarlington .
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 02 June 16 15:24 BST (UK)
The church is in the townland of Ballycarroll, Civil Parish of Lea, it would of course serve surrounding townlands.
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: SurfinNan on Thursday 02 June 16 15:59 BST (UK)
That fits with some of it. Although Mountmellick is not really in the same area is it?. It is a different parish again. I always believed parishes were cut and dry but in this case seems a bit transient. A small parish within a larger parish. It is all a bit foreign to me. Trying to get my head around it all. It fits though being near Ballybrittas as on other documents it says he came from Ballybrittas or Lea. Unless I am looking at two different people. James Molloy must be common name in the area at the time.
Thanks for all your input
Evelyn
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 02 June 16 16:37 BST (UK)
That fits with some of it. Although Mountmellick is not really in the same area is it?. It is a different parish again. I always believed parishes were cut and dry but in this case seems a bit transient. A small parish within a larger parish. It is all a bit foreign to me. Trying to get my head around it all.
Thanks for all your input
Evelyn

Not really unusual...  how many 1's do you see here?  or 17's?  etc

https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/county_civil.php?county=Laois
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 02 June 16 18:56 BST (UK)
You have to bear in mind who was taking down his details. This form was clearly filled in at a Dublin recruitment office by someone who didn't know the area James was from.
Asked what parish, James gave the name of his local church.
Asked what town his lived near, he may have said Ballybrittas and got a funny look so when with Mountmellick because it is bigger.
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 02 June 16 21:31 BST (UK)
You have to bear in mind who was taking down his details. This form was clearly filled in at a Dublin recruitment office by someone who didn't know the area James was from.
Asked what parish, James gave the name of his local church.
Asked what town his lived near, he may have said Ballybrittas and got a funny look so when with Mountmellick because it is bigger.

I do that today naming the better known town because if I said the townland no one would know it!
Title: Re: Wanting to know where this town is in Laois
Post by: SurfinNan on Thursday 02 June 16 23:55 BST (UK)
Well thank you for clearing my befuddled mind. What you all say now makes sense. I have been to Ballybrittas about 3 years ago on a trip to Ireland. Thank you for the map of parishes it will help in future.
Cheers
Evelyn
Western Australia