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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: SSlh on Saturday 04 June 16 13:49 BST (UK)
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I would be most interested in finding out any information on my elusive family members:
David Morton from Cormeen, Killylea who died in 1807. David had at least two sons , Thomas who married Mary Kane and John who married Jane Lawson. They were Presbyterians.
Many thanks for any information anyone is able to give me.
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1796 Flax Growers of Ireland see http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/armagh.php
Morrton George Derrynoose Armagh
Morton Charles Derrynoose Armagh
Morton George Derrynoose Armagh
Morton John Derrynoose Armagh
multiple entries in one townland is rare
1825
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/derrynoose-parish.php#.V1aiEleoc5Q
Morton, John - Townland : Cormeen Year : 1825
Morton, Thos. - Townland : Cormeen Year : 1825
Morton, Dennis - Townland : Drumacanver Year : 1825
Morton, George - Townland : Drumacanver Year : 1825
Morton, William - Townland : Lisagally Year : 1825
Morton, John - Townland : Tullicallidy Year : 1825
Morton, Thos. - Townland : Tullicallidy Year : 1825
the original tithe entry is a one liner name followed by land acreage good and poor land and that’s it. the originals seen by visit only
moving some 30 years later to Griffiths valuation to just Derrynoose civil parish
Morton David Drumacanver Derrynoose Armagh
Morton David Drumgreenagh Derrynoose Armagh
Morton John Cormeen Derrynoose Armagh
these 3 properties can be searched further on http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation eg
Griffiths valuation has further details normally including a map ref and a 1860ish map look up a map, concentating on the two older locations you will find Drumacanver road about 4 miles south of Cormeen road. Killylea village is about a mile west of Cormeen.
if you want to see Cormeen road, or Drumacanver road Co Armagh as a streetscene see https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ this fun and informative if you don’t know the area particularly if you have found the homestead on the 1860ish map
church records guide on PRONI should be checked
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I peeped at PRONI guide
DERRYNOOSE, CO. ARMAGH
C.I. Derrynoose (Armagh diocese)
Baptisms, 1710-46, with gaps, and 1822-70; marriages, 1712-43, 1825-9 and 1835-45; burials, 1835-1939; vestry minutes, 1709-12, 1720-50, 1756 and 1811-1958; confirmations, 1833-79, with gaps; list of emigrants to America and Scotland, 1840-c.1855.
Baptisms, 1870-; marriages, 1845-; registers of vestrymen, 1870-.
C.I. Killylea
[see under TYNAN]
P. 1st Keady (or The Temple)
Baptisms, 1838-1938; marriages, 1845-1920.
Derrynoose and Keady parishes]
Baptisms, 1835-7 and 1846-81; marriages, 1846-81;
deaths, 1846-51.
i thibnk they may have gone to a different neighbouring parish if a presbyterian church existed and the if the records exist
good luck
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I can't thank you enough for the information you have sent through to me. I am most grateful to you. It is all very helpful and I will continue those searches as I have something to go by now.
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From PRONI's will calendars:
Title :
Date of Death : 20 November 1867
Surname : Morton
Date of Grant : 7 December 1867
Forename : Charles
Reseal Date :
Registry : Armagh
Effects : Effects under £800
No Image
Full Abstract :
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Charles Morton late of Armagh County Armagh Dealer a Widower deceased who died 20 November 1867 at same place were granted at Armagh to John Morton of Cormeen (Killylea Armagh) in said County Farmer the Brother and one of the next of kin of said deceased.
So, I think this is another brother.
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Also a will of an Alexander Morton of Manooney, Killylea in 1897 ... effects to be auctioned off and proceeds to be distributed ... includes a debt of 10 pounds to the Presbyterian Church in Knappagh; balance to be given to his wife, Ann Morton.
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Again, thank you so much!
That has now led me to a Baptiste Morton who died in 1851. Seems to be another brother of Charles Morton who died in 1861. This seems to be a very unusual name? As yet I can't find any information on him.
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A Son of Thomas Morton & Mary Kane, Charles Morton married Sarah Gibson & migrated with their children to Australia on board the "CHARLES". They arrived in Port Philip on 30 September 1853.
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Where would I look to find out any information about a David Morton who was living at Manooney, Tynan, County Armagh in the year 1856? My ggg grandfather died in this home and I believe the above may be related to him as there is a name connection.
Many thanks for any help given.
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You can search Valuation Revision Books (dates range from printed version of Griffith's Valuation until c1930)-
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books
Manooney townland is in Armagh Poor Law Union/Civil Registration District so you could look for deaths in that district (registration start 1864 so if he died before that date there will be no death certificate).
Don't think this has been mentioned yet?
Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of Frances Morton late of Manooney County Armagh Spinster who died 6 June 1884 at same place were granted at Armagh to Alexander Morton of Manooney Farmer the Nephew and the Residuary Legatee. Will mentions brother David Morton, nephew Alexander Morton, niece Frances Morton, niece Mary Jane Maginnis.
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Thank you so much for your help! I will search along those lines and hope for a break through. That information has helped a lot,
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Hi. I am the gg grandaugher of Alexander Morton (Manooney )
Who inherited the farm from his aunt Frances Morton ( according to Proni records) have very little information about Alex Morton except that he fathered an illegitimate child (also named Alexander Morton) in approx 1880. From whom I am decended. I would be grateful for any info. Thanks
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G Currie,
Wonderful to here from you as I think we are related through our Morton lines. I too am trying to find out more about Alexander and in fact, all the lines back before David Morton. I have been years and years "digging deep"into the family history........ but to date have little except to slowly piece the lives of the brothers together. I do have a copy of Frances's will but I'm sure you would have that. Let me know if you don't.
Do you know what happened to Alexander's wife Ann? They seemed to vanish from 'sight" and we thought moved to another area. I will look through what I have on Alexander later today and certainly get back to you. Do you know of any Morton family still living in Ireland?
Best wishes, Lyn
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May be of interest
Grant of probate
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j3p/
Field books
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j3q/
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Thank you so much Dathai. It is of great interest!
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Hi I think you've been looking for me! I'm from the David Morton descendants that immigrated to Australia on the 'Charles'
Mary kane /Sarah Gibson. David Morton was my dads g grandfather. I'm travelling to Ireland next week to research further 26/2/17. Do you know the address of the Presbyterian churc he we nt to. My dad said David Morton was minister of Presbyterian church but dad is 87 now and memory failing. I'd like to know why the whole family
left and perhaps we could swap photos".
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Hi. That's very interesting as we had also heard there was a prebyterian minister in the Alexander morton family. I am not sure which church he would have belonged to. There are 2 in the area Lislooney presbyterian and Knappagh Presbyterian. Out of interest I live in the area of Tynan County Armagh and would be interested in meeting up when u r in N Ireland. Unfortunately my knowledge is very limited on account of lack of information but maybe we could fill in the gaps? Let me know what you think? Kind regards Gail.
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Dear Gail and "Discovering Joy". I'm sorry I don't know your name! It's lovely to hear from you both.
Gail I am so excited to have found family in Ireland as I have been searching for 50 years without any success, and just recently asked my friend who is an Irish researcher, to do some "exploring" for me!
I know a great deal about our Gibson family but very little about my Morton/ Kane ancestors.
There is obviously a very strong Morton Gibson link and the Rev James Gibson who was Presbyterian minister of Lislooney between 1801 and 1834 died in the house of David Morton at Tynan in October 1864. It appears that the Morton family went to Lislooney church . He resigned from there in 1834 through ill health but went on to live another thirty odd years and outlived his successor! His wife was Jane Wright and maybe he resigned to look after her.
The Rev James Gibson's daughter Sarah Rice Gibson married Charles Morton (my GG Grandfather)
at Lislooney church and their children were baptised there. It seems that the Rev James Gibson's son James Gibson also married a Morton ...... Mary Jane Morton and came out with two daughters. He had TB I believe and he died quite young also losing children to the disease.
I am in Cambodia and so all my documents and information are at home. I will be in touch again after I return home on the 2nd of March.
Very best wishes to you both and I hope you both meet up Gail. Would love to meet you when I come over also.
Lyn
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Hi Gail I'm on a train from London and I lost my message so I'll start again. I'd love to meet you next week. I'll contact you again when I know which day we will be in yr area. Prob about tues. I had not heard of Alexander Morton before. I'll contact dads cousin in australia who has the most information and see what further info I can bring. Regards joy
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Hi Gail and Lynn, firstly I'm new to this and having difficulties with the site. Perhaps it's my iPhone. Secondly I've got more info and found the connection to Alexander Morton . I'm still trying to find address of the Morton farm on cormeen rd. the farm was there 150 yrs ago so could be different now. Hope the trip to Cambodia was as good as ours was a few yrs ago! Regards joy
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Dear Gail and Joy....... It is so special for me to have contact with you both.
Joy, I wish I could be at home and have my information in front of me to be of some help to you. I am not exactly sure where you fit into my line, but I know you are there somewhere! You also may have all the information I have on our Morton family, including the booklet we have, but there is a lot there at home to share with you anyway. Much of it from a researcher in Ireland I had years ago.
I am enjoying Cambodia very much, it is home away from home for me....... as I have been coming over here twice a year, to the village school we built in 2009. So it has all become very special to me.
I will wait anxiously to hear about your meeting with each other. What a wonderful meeting that will be, thanks to Rootsweb! How I would love to be joining you both!
Warm regards to possibly two newly found cousins.......
Lyn
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Joy, I should have added that we have a photo of the land where the farm house of Charles and Sarah Morton had stood. The house had disappeared. It was taken by Max Morton on a visit there many years ago. It is hard to identify where it was now from the photo, but I know it was on the Cormeen Road, Killylea, County Armagh.
Not much help, am I???
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Hi Lyn well this is all coming together for me. Max Morton is my dad he's 87 now and he went to killylea about 40 yrs ago around the time my daughter was born she's 41. David Morton of Curmeen - the farm name- is my dads great grand father. Getting back to the photo I think I have the same one but nothing to indicate an address. I've also got a lot of info at home photos etc as I'm in uk visiting my immediate family. Where are you from USA? Regards joy ps it will be great to meet Gail! We come over every yr to visit my son so maybe next yr? Regards joy
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Hi Joy I'm really looking forward to meeting u on Tuesday. If you want to PM me via Facebook my name is Gail Currie Irwin. I'll give you my details etc. Lynn you are welcome to friend request me as well. Your information has been invaluable regarding Rev James Gibson. There has been a book published by Lislooney presbyterian church on its history. If you go to its Facebook page you can follow the links to buy it on face book. There is a chapter on The rev Gibson and also mentions David morton (an elder in the church). I hope we can help each other fill in the missing pieces which have been lost through history.
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Joy, that is wonderful news! Always special to find family...... and Max being your family, means we are family too!
I have worked with cousins in Melbourne for years researching the Morton family and it has been very fruitful. Of course having the 1856 letter from the Rev James Gibson has proved a "gold mine" for us, and enabled me to find out much about the Gibson family both in America and in Australia too.
Will think of you both on Tuesday.
I will send you a FB friend request too now Gail.
Best wishes to you both.
Lyn
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Hi would love to see a copy of the Rev Gibson letter.....sounds interesting!
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Interesting that this thread should be at the top when I log in! I'm trying to track down info about an Ann(ie) Morton born May 1899 in Armagh and came looking for any online parish records/info. Coincidence I'm sure :)
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Interesting that this thread should be at the top when I log in! I'm trying to track down info about an Ann(ie) Morton born May 1899 in Armagh and came looking for any online parish records/info. Coincidence I'm sure :)
Is this the Annie Morton you are looking for? date and place of birth, parents' names & father's occupation all in register-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02043/1782254.pdf
If that's not her then search on the site for her birth certificate.
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Is this the Annie Morton you are looking for? date and place of birth, parents' names & father's occupation all in register-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02043/1782254.pdf
If that's not her then search on the site for her birth certificate.
One of her sons' middle names was Alexander so this seems very likely to be the one, thank you so much! I'm relatively new to searching Irish records so this is a huge help :)
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And look at that, she was a twin! 2am and 2.15am, Annie and Alexander :)
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Do you have the name of Annie's parents or other details that would confirm this Annie Morton is the one you are looking for?
Morton family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Keady_Rural/Darkley/1014582
and 10 years later-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Keady/Darkley_Town/
sadly 4 other children died before 1911. church of Ireland in 1901 and Presbyterian in 1911.
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Twin boy Alexander-
Alexander Morton died 9 April 1941, age 40, Newry district
Will Extract- Morton Alexander of 87 Moss Row Darkley and of Camlymacullagh both in county Armagh farm labourer died 9 April 1941 Administration Belfast 16 August to Mary Edith Morton the widow. Effects £239 19s.
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Thanks everyone! I'm doing pretty well with this branch now :)
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Gail and lyn im still having a lot of trouble getting on to this site . Things move around a lot and I cant find what you've sent. I've got a uk ph and an Australian ph but in Ireland tonight neither may work! I sent a Facebook merge to Gail. Pls pm me on Facebook joy everest Adelaide hills or Wistow Adelaide. South Australia .Pic of me and a pony.tks joy or make a friend request
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Lyn I've been meaning to say that I'm sure I've seen baptiste Morton somewhere in the paperwork. I'll check when I get home. Regards joy
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Hi Gail curry I'm in Belfast and will be in Armagh tonight which is Monday .pls text (*)
tks. Joy
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Hi. I've been trying to research my Mortons and Gibsons and I stumbled across this chat. I'm not sure whether they're related, but mine are both from Armagh also. My ggg grandparents, James Gibson and Mary Ann Morton, married in Tynan, co. Armagh in 1846. They came to Australia on the "Cornwall" as assisted immigrants in 1850, with their 2 daughters. One of those daughters was my gg grandmother, Sarah Jane Gibson. For some reason I had thought that Rev. James Gibson was James' father, though I've not been able to properly research this yet.
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I'm just adding to my original post below. Now that I've actually read the whole thread, I see that someone (sorry, I'm new to this chat thing) actually mentioned my James Gibson and Mary Ann Morton. Wow! I'm pretty excited about that. James did die young, unfortunately, in 1860, in the goldfields at Rocky River, near Armidale NSW. Sarah Jane Gibson, who came over here with them as a baby, married Jesse Pearsall (the son of 2 former transported convicts) who resided in Armidale and they had quite a large family. My great grandmother, Mary May Pearsall was one of their children.
I know very little about the Mortons and Gibsons beyond that, so would be grateful for any information you could share. Cheers, Cherie
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Dear Cherie,
I am so happy to be able to tell you that we certainly are family! I presume you are also in Australia. If you could email me privately at * I will be able to give/send you lots of information about our family.
Your GGG Grandfather James was the son of the Rev James Gibson (my GGG grandfather) and Mary Ann Morton , his wife, was the daughter of my GGG Grandfather's brother.
I really look forward to hearing from you Cherie.
Cheers,
Lyn
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Hi Lyn. I've tried sending you an email twice this morning but it keeps coming back as undeliverable. I'm not sure why so I'll give you my email address and perhaps you could contact me. I'd love to hear from you.
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Hi, I have just discovered this site and am very excited. I’m researching my husband’s Family Tree and he is a descendant of The Reverend James Gibson, James Gibson and Mary Ann Morton, Jesse Pearsall and Sarah Jane Gibson, Mary May Souz. Would love any information available. Many thanks