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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Norfolk => England => Norfolk Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Reedy2 on Thursday 30 June 16 20:51 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find a baptism record for a William Brown it says on the 1881 census that he was born in Swanton Morley about 1875. His fathers name was Robert and his mother Hagar. In 1881 he is living in Middlesborough with some of his family. I am also trying to find him on any census records after this.
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there's this one in 1872
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hwx/
and this one in 1877
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hww/
but to a James and Martha :-\
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I can see a Mary Ann 1870, Cornelius 1871 and Anna 1872 born to Robert and Hagar but no William
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Thanks for that. Maybe he wasnt born in Swanton Morley. His brother James was born in Scaring in 1863 then Sarah Ellen in 1864 in Gressenhall then John in Gressenhall in 1866and then Martha in what looks like Donton in 1868.
The others you mentioned are mine.
With a name like Hagar its not that hard to say they are not.
And thanks again
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1881 Mother Hagar is living in Eston Middlesborough Yks with 3 children -she is a widow
I can't find her or the children in 1891 or 1901
but she is still alive in 1911
I think the children are : James, Sarah Ellen, John,Martha, William, Cornelius, Anna, Emma
did the children all survive?
Suz
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1901 census he is in Oldham Lancashire age 26, boarder, labourer/navvy.
with Robert Harris (born Swanton Morley) 41 and wife Mary D born Northamptonshire age39
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Is this your Robert Brown?
Robert Brown died 21 July 1876 in Guisborough Yorkshire. He was a stonemason at the Bolckow Vaughan & Company Colliery. Colliery name Upsal. A 40lb stone balance weight fell on him age 36.
Freebmd has age 37.
Ref Coal Mine Historical Resource Center, it has records of many mine accidents
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There is a child John Robert bap at Wendling 16 June 1861 to Robert and Hagar Brown, labourer.
Then a burial at Gressenhall 23 February 1863 infant.
Martha was bap at Dunton cum Doughton 2 Feb 1868 born 22 December 1867.
James at Scarning 15 June 1862
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Thanks for all the look ups. Yes the Robert you mentioned did die in the mines. He came here for work but he had a tragic death.
I will carry on looking for William.
It looks like most of the girls married
So i will carry on searching.
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1891 census in Runcorn :
Henry Wiltshire b 1849 Swansea
Hagar Wiltshire b 1843 Norfolk
Jenny Wiltshire
Cornelius Brown Wiltshire 20 Norfolk
Hannah Brown Wiltshire 18 Norfolk
RG12 2831 29 9
No sign of William.
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Henry and Hagar Wiltshire are on the 1901 census in Monk Heseldon, Durham :
RG13 4687 64 21
Hagar Brown on the free 1911 index :
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7R3-4B8
Hagar Wiltshire b 1843 d Mar 1923 Easington, Durham 10a 516
Still no sign of William. Have you been able to check the 1911 to see how many children survived and match them with the ones you've traced forward ? If he didn't die early on perhaps he joined the Army or Navy ?
Edit : I see amondg found William in 1901 in Oldham so it's 1891 and 1911 which are missing.
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I know he didnt die young as my Dad went to stay with him when he was young himself and he is 80 now.William may have lived in Hemsley or Hornby in Yorkshire by this time.
I am trying to trace the rest of his brothers and sisters one by one .
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Daughter Anne Brown married Charles William Walden Cardiff registration district ref 11a 543. December Quarter 1893.
Daughter Martha possibly married John Hill Middlesborough Yorkshire 1887, ref 9d 871, June Quarter.
Added. Ann Walden died age 30 Devonport Devon, not long after the birth of daughter Daisy.
10 February 1912 Charles and the children plus a new wife described as Mrs. F Walden, left London for Sydney Australia, ship named Norseman, destination port Melborne Australia.
Mr D Walden 40 Milkman
Mrs F Walden 34
Mr C Walden 20 cabinet maker
Miss M Walden 19 Domestic
Mr H Walden 17
Miss V Walden 14
Miss D Walden 10