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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: EmmaPettit on Monday 18 July 16 12:05 BST (UK)
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A wee bit frustrated.
I'm trying to find a marriage between a William Savidge and a Sarah Savidge, both sometimes spelled as Savage. Between 1860 and 1866 in Cambridgeshire, England.
I can never seem to come up with anything. Sarah is from Cottenham, Cambs and William from Wilburton, Cambs. I do believe they are cousins but can't find them on a BANNs or a Wedding cert. I have found them on the Census' from 1871 through to 1901 but nothing else. Perhaps one of you lovely people can find something I couldn't?
But they are not to be confused with Sarah Savidges brother William Savidge and his wife Sarah Bennerson who married in 1861. They have similar dates of birth and the life but the Sarah and William I am after are in Wilburton though Sarah was born Cottenham.
I have banged my head against a never relenting wall for many a month over this and have got no where.
Please help.
Thanks to all who took their time. :)
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Please can you give us their birthdates?
Has Sarah's maiden name been confirmed from a child's birth certificate?
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Is the relevant William in Wilburton in 1861 aged 17, son of the widowed Ann?
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Are they the parents of William Briggs Savidge, born 1865?
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Easy this one.
A William Savidge married Sarah Rowell Dec.1864 Chesterton - 1871 census shows she was bc.1841 - 1851 Census shows Sarah Rowell bc.1840 Cottenham dau. of Edward and Lois.
Annette
PS Had verified that the other couple on the same page reference as them had married each other.
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Just realised you are saying she was a Savidge too but you must be mistaken.
The William who married Sarah Bennerton was bc.1841 Cottenham son of William and Ann - whilst he did have a sister Sarah she wasn't born until ca.1856!!
Don't know why you thought the Sarah who married William Savidge born Wilburton was also a Savidge - she is clearly Sarah Rowell.
Annette
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Sarah could still be William's cousin though - related via William's mother. Maybe it was a family story that cousins had married and it was assumed that the surnames were the same.
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Assuming you don't have deaths for them as you said you followed then though till 1901 then nothing else
Probate record for William Savidge of Bridge Inn Twenty Pence -Road Wilburton Cambridgeshire died 26 th September 1933 Probate Peterbourgh 28 December 1933 to Charles Bowers retired accountant and Harry Savidge ( wheelwright ) effects £690 5s 4d
Death registration William Savidge b abt 1844 died Sep 1933 age 89 registration district Ely Cambridgeshire
Would agree with the marriage to Sarah Rowell
Rosie
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Death registration for Sarah Savidge birth year 1839 died 1908 Registration district Ely Cambridgeshire age 69
Probate for Sarah Savidge of Twenty Man's Ferry Wilburton Cambridgeshire ( wife of William Savidge ) died 19th July 1908 administration Peterborough 2 September 1908.... to the said William Savidge ( farmer ) £ 202 15s 2d
Rosie
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William as a child here in 1851
Piece number 1764 Folio 72 Page 29
I think his mother was Anne Powers there is a marriage in Wilburton in 1839
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His father was Briggs Savidge
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Freebmd have a marriage entry in Havant in 1862 which includes the names William Savage and Sarah Savage.
Isobel
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Sarah could still be William's cousin though - related via William's mother. Maybe it was a family story that cousins had married and it was assumed that the surnames were the same.
Sorry, yes, I did mean cousin. There are rather a lot of William and Sarah Savidge's in this family it gets a little confusing with all the name recycling.
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Please can you give us their birthdates?
Has Sarah's maiden name been confirmed from a child's birth certificate?
So Sorry, I should have put that in my original post. Sarah Savidge was born 1838 to John and Mary Ann Lucas in Cottenham.
William Savidge was born 1844 to William and Ann in Wilburton.
And no, I have not got the certificate yet, it's been ordered and is coming from the UK to Aus.
But from all the census information and the people who lived with her throughout them it is the Sarah i'm after.
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But didn't you say the Sarah you're looking for was the sister of the William who married Sarah Ann Bennerson?
William and SAB's marriage on Freereg, his father was also called William and he was under 21 at marriage. Likely to be the William who was bapt in 1841 Cottenham s/o William and Ann. Likely to be William and Ann nee Pauley married at Histon 1839
(Very confusing with William from Wilburton marrying an Ann Powers in same year)
Ann nee Pauley died and William married Ann Stallion nee Leader (a widow with at least two children).
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But didn't you say the Sarah you're looking for was the sister of the William who married Sarah Ann Bennerson?
William and SAB's marriage on Freereg, his father was also called William and he was under 21 at marriage. Likely to be the William who was bapt in 1841 Cottenham s/o William and Ann. Likely to be William and Ann nee Pauley married at Histon 1839
(Very confusing with William from Wilburton marrying an Ann Powers in same year)
Ann nee Pauley died and William married Ann Stallion nee Leader (a widow with at least two children).
I did say sister but I shouldn't have. They are cousins. Their fathers are brothers, hence the same last names.
And yes, that William listed above son of William Savidge and Ann Pauley and step son of Ann Stallion/Leader is the cousin.
There are a lot of Sarah and Williams in the Savidge family and I was trying to follow other family members when I asked for help due to frustration and there for mixed up the original relationship. Both the William/Sarah cousins relationships are very similar and dates and locations. I was trying to steer people away from that couple so there would be less confusion and I fear in doing so have actually caused more :(
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Just realised you are saying she was a Savidge too but you must be mistaken.
The William who married Sarah Bennerton was bc.1841 Cottenham son of William and Ann - whilst he did have a sister Sarah she wasn't born until ca.1856!!
Don't know why you thought the Sarah who married William Savidge born Wilburton was also a Savidge - she is clearly Sarah Rowell.
Annette
The reason I believe it not to be a mistake is the people she has stay with her through the census years.
Joseph Crane
Anne Stearn
Both relatives on her side married into the family.
I have been able to find no other leads as to what happened to her. So i'm investigating this one. it's not the first time relatives have married. So it is feasible.
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Sarah Savidge was born 1838 to John and Mary Ann Lucas in Cottenham.
That Sarah might possibly be a servant in Hackney in 1861 and 1871?
In the census indexes is
1861 Sarah Sewadge, 22, born Cottenham
1871 Sarah Lavidge, 33, born Cottenham
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1851 census Sarah age 13 and older brother Lucas with father John poultry man and Elizabeth his wife. Elizabeth must be John's second wife, because Lucas is definitely John and Mary Ann nee Lucas's son. Burial of Mary Ann Savidge 48 in Cottenham 26 Dec 1848.
Sarah was baptised at age 15 in Cottenham 5 May 1853, father John (poulterer) and Mary.
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She might have married James Levitt in 1875
Dec 1875 Hendon 3a 207
Levitt, James
Savage, Sarah
Can only see the banns at Holy Innocents, Kingsbury
12, 19, 26 Sep 1875
James Levitt, abode Kingsbury, Widower, age 35
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Sarah Savage, abode Hackney, Spinster, age 34
married 5 October 1875
1881
piece 637 folio 111 page 31
Clapham
59 Temperley Rd
James Livitt Head 41 Gardener, born Cambs...
Sarah Livitt Wife 42 Cambs Cottenham (looks like Cattenham)
Alice Livitt Daur 3 mo Surrey Balham
Eliza Price Visitor 38 Cook Surrey Balham
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1891 still at 59 Temperley Road, Clapham
piece 444 folio 130 page 20
James Levitt 54 Gardener Cambs Waterbeach
Sarah Levitt 53 Cambs Cottenham
Alice E Levitt 10 Scholar Surrey Balham
1901
piece 475 folio 42 page 16
Parish Streatham
59 Temperley Rd
James Levitt 63 Gardener Waterbeach Cambridge
Sarah Levitt 64 Cottenham Cambridge
Alice Levitt 20 Dressmaking Balham Surrey
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Apparently the parish church of Kingsbury until 1884 was St Andrew, it was then replaced by a new building, dedicated to Holy Innocents. All the records of the old parish church (St Andrew) were transferred to the new one (Holy Innocents). LMA lists them all under the latter name.
So really the 1875 banns/marriage took place in the old parish church of St Andrew.
The LMA catalogue for Holy Innocents does not list any marriages there after 1837!
The LMA catalogue for LB Brent however says they do hold the marriage registers for St Andrew/HI from that date till 1953
For the register August 1867 - June 1879 (DRO/093/011) it says "available on ancestry website", but it does not appear to be on ancestry at all! So far, I haven't been able to establish the microfilm number.
Of course, the original poster may not consider that the Sarah Savage who married in 1875 is likely to be the Sarah Savidge she is looking for?
John
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Looking at the Banns record, it seems a bit odd, the dates of the three readings seem to have been crossed out as does the date at the beginning of the entry ("when received"). The last column for Marriage date has "By Banns" crossed out.
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I have a Sarah Rowell (b) 1840 in Cottenham and married William Savidge, so I may be able to help