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Title: gott in penshaw
Post by: Pauline Mackie on Saturday 30 July 16 15:02 BST (UK)
I have Esther Drummond who married William Gott in my tree,Esther was a daughter to James Drummond,James fled from Culloden after the Jacobites lost the battle,his ship ran aground near South Shields where he was taken in by the Armstrong family of Biddick.

I am looking for William Gott's parents poss birth approx 1715-20
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: 2zpool on Saturday 06 August 16 04:30 BST (UK)
Penshaw did not have a church until 1752.  Maybe a record in Houghton le Spring or Washington Holy Trinity.

Janis
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Wednesday 24 August 16 16:09 BST (UK)

William & Esther married 30 July 1778 Durham City - why do you think he was born around 1715/20? or do you mean his parents born then? do you have his bap?


Diddy
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Wednesday 24 August 16 16:12 BST (UK)

did William marry again to Mary Bee in Penshaw 28/6/1803 & Have a son Willliam 15/10/1809 Penshaw?


Diddy
Title: Re: Gott in Penshaw
Post by: Wearsider on Sunday 09 October 16 17:49 BST (UK)
Some years ago I found a quite large family tree of Drummonds who descended from James Drummond and Margaret Armstrong.  This gives the marriage of Esther Drummond and William Drott as 30th July 1778 and also shows a son - William Gott, born in 1780 who married Mary Bee on 28th June 1803.

As far as I can see from the tree, which is on 12 A4 sheets, there is a later marriage of Esther Drummond to John Dodds on 24th April 1785.

I have the book 'The Mystery of the Duke of Perth, A Historical Enigma' by Arthur Appleton, however I have been unable to find any reference to Esther Drummond, it only mentions the birth of Anne in 1750, James in 1752 and Elizabeth in 1764.

Wearsider.   
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: Wearsider on Monday 10 October 16 12:10 BST (UK)
I have studied the Drummond family tree again and I can provide further information from it:

The William Gott who married Mary Bee on 28th June 1803, mentioned in an earlier posting, was the son of Esther Drummond and William Gott.   William and Esther are shown as having 2 children - Elizabeth born ? and William born 1780.

The marriage of William Gott and Mary Bee resulted in 8 children - Isabel b ?, William b 15 Oct 1809, Elizabeth b 18 Oct 1811, John b 1814, James b 1815, Mary b 1819, Esther b 17 Dec 1821 and Dorothy b 28 Oct 1823.

Esther Drummond's second marriage to John Dobbs produced one child - also called John.

There is no indication on the tree as to who William Gotts parents were.

Whereas Arthur Appleton's book only seems to mention James Drummond and Elizabeth Armstrong as having 3 children, the tree shows 7 children.

My gr gr grandmother was Alice Drummond who was b 1808 at Lamesley, however I have been any connection back to James Drummond of Biddick.

Wearsider
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: paulinemackie on Saturday 19 November 16 22:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys,thanks for the information,I was in fact looking for William's parents,I have James Drummonds Baptism,can you tell me where you found the large tree with information....Esther was James Drummonds daughter,this makes her my 6th gt grandmother,I have all of James tree but no further back than Williams parents,just need to get down to finding time to keep at it,hope you can understand what I have put here as I'm really tired,but once again thankyou for assistance.
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: Wearsider on Sunday 20 November 16 11:04 GMT (UK)
Sorry I cannot give you any more information than I have already given you.  It was some years ago that I downloaded the tree and there is no indication on it as to the website from where it came.

Wearsider.
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: paulinemackie on Sunday 20 November 16 15:33 GMT (UK)
  Thankyou Wearsider,will keep plodding on.
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Post by: barryd on Sunday 20 November 16 16:21 GMT (UK)
Gott has 40 pages of names on Durham Records Online. I did not realize that is was so numerous.
Title: Re: gott in penshaw
Post by: Colchester on Wednesday 11 January 17 16:46 GMT (UK)
Apologies but I've only now read your post. The William Gott that you're interested in is in my direct paternal line. I have lots of information following his marriage to Esther but he is something of an enigma!  I have nothing 'material' until his marriage to Esther. However we know her age, when and where they married, offspring, and his death shortly there after. I haven't been able to 'prove' his identity but there is, perhaps, a clue in his burial record. His occupation is 'Chaise driver'. There is a William Gott who married Dorothy Goldsborough in Darlington. His occupation is shown as 'Postillion'. She died 1774 so perhaps he moved to Durham and married Esther in 1778. I reckon that Dorothy was born 1736 so if he was around the same age he would have been 'a mature man' when he married Esther. As yet I can't find the 'Darlington William's' origin but I'll keep at it!