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Title: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: soozieg on Monday 01 August 16 23:23 BST (UK)
Hi, I have recently been passed a winners 'black chair' awarded to my great grandfather at a Welsh National Eisteddfod. It has no markings - does anyone know of anyway to find out what year he won this and for what? We presume singing but we are not sure. Thx in advance for any guidance!
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 01 August 16 23:49 BST (UK)
Does he have a name, age, and area of birth, or area to research 🤔

Cas
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: soozieg on Tuesday 02 August 16 00:03 BST (UK)
William Ellis. Born Ysbyty ifan in 1874. Lived llanwrst in 1911 according to census. Was in ysbyty ifan at some point after that until he died in 1944. Lived in remote farm house Blaen Eidda between penmachno and Ysbyty.
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 02 August 16 00:04 BST (UK)
https://museum.wales/1517/

All I am reading it appears to be awarded to the best bard, cannot see anything for singing.

Cas
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 02 August 16 00:18 BST (UK)
Lot of history here

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/Social/Eisteddfod

Cas
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: soozieg on Tuesday 02 August 16 06:42 BST (UK)
in my research it seems to be linked to poetry... But singing is what we think in the family. Maybe a mystery that won't be solved. Thx for your time.
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 02 August 16 07:58 BST (UK)
Can  you please post a photograph  of it please?

It is a very  rare and special thing.
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: whiteout7 on Tuesday 02 August 16 09:02 BST (UK)
"A second prize of a guinea was given by Mr Jarret Roberts (Carnarvon) to William Ellis, Llangefni, another competitor" - Best welsh song written for a baritone 2nd out of 5 compostions? Perhaps he entered this more than once? 17th September 1884

THE WELSH NATIONAL EISTEDDFOD
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3517781/3517784/30/

Maybe this is not him, he would have been 10 years old?

Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 02 August 16 09:07 BST (UK)
The current Eistedfod  is on now at Abergavenny.
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: soozieg on Tuesday 02 August 16 09:15 BST (UK)
Someone on another forum has suggested it is from a more local Eisteddfod rather than national as all national ones have the date inscribed! It's still beautiful - will get a photo. I don't think that the family travelled very far so that W Ellis would not be right as Llangefni is on Angelsey I think... Thx all for help thus far!
Title: Re: History of National Eisteddfod
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 02 August 16 13:55 BST (UK)
Is it a heavy   substantial chair?

Some  chairs in some categories some years are not awarded.
The 1939  one, for example,   was not awarded because of the imminent start of the war.