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Title: Places to visit
Post by: gjs1949 on Wednesday 10 August 16 13:36 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I have rented a cottage in Keith for a week and intend to visit places where my forebears were born/married/died or mentioned in censuses, I would appreciate any thoughts/pointers any posters can provide to help me along the way.

I have events in Archiestown, Knockando, Abelour, Rothes, Grange, Cawdor, Lumsden, Auchindoir, Forres, Elgin, New Machar and probably more places that I can't remember at the moment.

TIA

George
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 10 August 16 13:51 BST (UK)
George, I'm not too sure what information you are seeking, but if it relates to locations, all these places are easy to find on a map.

I'm not sure if this link will work the way I want to but several of the places you mentioned are viewable here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i6d/

If you are looking for other information, all I would advise is that you try to locate each church, grave and address before you go - this should make your search easier once you get there. Prepare as much as you can beforehand. Presumably you will have your own vehicle?

Have an enjoyable and fruitful trip. 

Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: ev on Wednesday 10 August 16 14:21 BST (UK)
NLS has access to older maps that may be useful.

Archiestown
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.4810&lon=-3.2872&layers=6&b=1



ev
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 10 August 16 14:28 BST (UK)
Good suggestion ev - those NLS maps are wonderful.

Leading on from this I was going to suggest that George may find it useful to use the "side by side" feature (which compares the old map with the current map), however sadly this feature is not available in close up for Archiestown. You have to zoom out to see the modern map, and you lose all the valuable detail.

I will include a link to it in case it is available for other locations:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=13&lat=57.4837&lon=-3.2873&layers=6&right=BingHyb

You can zoom in using your mouse wheel, and scroll around.
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: gjs1949 on Wednesday 10 August 16 14:55 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies,

I checked the side by side map and it zooms in quite a lot but only with the road maps not the satellites.

I searched around previously using Google Earth and I am quite familiar with the locations that are still there, however when Looking for Grange or Auchindoir or Kearn the search was not successful, hopefully the side by side map will help as it should still have the old places.

Once again thanks to all for the help.

T&R
GJS
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 10 August 16 15:00 BST (UK)
George I could find Auchidoun not Auchidoir - is that the same place? :-\

I think any anomalies with place names are what you need to sort out before your trip.  :)

Some of the place names may need further investigation. Some may be farms and not marked on maps, or only marked on the most detailed of maps.

It depends on what the names relate to and what date - eg a bmd event or a census location for example. Some detective work will probably be able to track them down.

Do you have a list of those places you can't find? If you let us know the places and some dates we can try to spot them for you. Dates can sometimes help as we can look on older maps for example, and if the place is an address from the census - tell us the family name and which census, we might be able to find them.
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: gjs1949 on Wednesday 10 August 16 15:23 BST (UK)
Ruskie,

I was thinking the same thing myself, are Auchidoun and Auchindoir the same, could be I misread the handwriting on the document, on one document I have Lumsden, Auchindoir and on another document I have Manse of Auchindoir, in the parish of Auchindoir & Kearn, Aberdeenshire. Maybe I will have to travel a bit further afield, (good job I will have my own transport), and maybe I should post a message on the Aberdeenshire forum as well.

Once again Thanks & Regards
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: dowdstree on Wednesday 10 August 16 16:24 BST (UK)
Hi George,

If you go to  www.scottish-places.info/parishes/parhistory322.html  (hope I got all this correct) you will find details of Parish of Auchindor  and Kearn.

It contains the village of Lumsden and is 3 ish miles NNW of Alford.

Lots of info on this site.

Hope you enjoy your visit to Aberdeenshire and have time to look around some of the little interesting places especially on the Moray Firth. I am just back from Portsoy where we holiday often so I know the area reasonably well.

Dorrie
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: pharmaT on Wednesday 10 August 16 17:37 BST (UK)
The Falconer Museum in Forres High Street had genealogical information when I was there.

I would also recommend going to see the Moray Firth dolphins.
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: gjs1949 on Wednesday 10 August 16 18:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info and links.

I shall have to set aside a bit more time to revise my itinerary to make sure I can see as much as possible during my trip.

On a lighter note, the last time I was in the Aberdeenshire area, (during my basic training at Brig-o-Don) I was plagued by horseflies and rather large ones at that, what's the prognosis for the horsefly population these days?

T&R
GJS
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 10 August 16 18:40 BST (UK)
Archiestown is a village in the parish of Knockando. The parish kirk is a couple of miles further west, in the hamlet of Knockando. Do not confuse Knockando with Knockandhu, which is between Tomintoul and Dufftown. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Knockando
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2344 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1941

Aberlour is a parish on the opposite side of the River Spey from Knockando. The village in the parish of Aberlour is officially named Charlestown of Aberlour but no-one actually calls it that. See http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Aberlour/index.html
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2642 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2743

Rothes is a parish, including a town of the same name, next to Knockando and downriver from Aberlour. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Rothes
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2749

Grange is a rural parish north and east of the town and parish of Keith. See http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Grange/index.html
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4851

Cawdor is a parish including a village, with a castle, in Nairnshire, some 20 miles or so west. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/NAI/Cawdor
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH8449

Lumsden is the largest village in the parish of Auchindoir and Kearn, south of Huntly. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ABD/Auchindoir/index.html
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4721

Forres is a parish including a town of the same name, and Elgin is a parish including a town of the same name. Both are large enough to be shown on most road maps. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Forres and http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Elgin

New Machar is a parish including a village a few miles north-west of Aberdeen. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ABD/Newmachar/index.html
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8819

Auchindoun is not the same as Auchindoir. It is a separate place in the parish of Mortlach, which is south of Rothes and Aberlour and includes the town of Dufftown. http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Mortlach/index.html
Also http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3540 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3437

If there are any other places, including individual farms, that you are trying to find, I can almost certainly help.
Title: Re: Places to visit
Post by: gjs1949 on Friday 09 September 16 15:08 BST (UK)
Many thanks to everyone who contributed, all the replies have given me a lot to work on and hopefully help me in my quest for more information about my forbears.