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Title: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Friday 02 September 16 17:04 BST (UK)
What I believe to be true is:
Owen Lloyd, who died on 9th November 1812 in Abertrinant, was the father of Louisa Charlotta Lloyd. Louisa "Lucy" was the first wife of my great, great grandfather Rev. Llewelyn Lloyd Thomas and the connection to my family.
The Lloyd family are very difficult to follow, since dates and supporting documents are in short supply on trees I've seen; not to mention all the Thomas Lloyds in the family.
I would initially like to know:
1. When was Owen Lloyd born?
2. Who were Owen's parents?
3. Who was Owen's wife - or wives if he had more than one.
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I have seen some information, but I want you smart people to investigate without bias. Any information like wills, obituaries, etc. are most welcome.
Thank you.
Richard
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: MaxD on Friday 02 September 16 17:27 BST (UK)
Snippet - Youngest daughter Elizabeth married Thomas Davies of Nantgwylan at Llangunilo church  Nov 20th 1840. (Bristol Times and Mirror 12 Dec 1840).

Edit - Mrs Lloyd (name no given!) relict of ... died 31 January 1827 at Laugharne (Hereford Journal 21 Feb 1827)
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: MaxD on Friday 02 September 16 17:48 BST (UK)
And - William son of.... died aged 64 16 Feb 1870 (Morning Advertiser 25 Feb 1870 and Cheltenham Onlooker)

Plus others in Welsh 1885-1897
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Friday 02 September 16 17:50 BST (UK)
Thank you Max. I have seen that info, but it is reassuring that you find the same details as I.
Richard
P.S. The habit of omitting Christian names for the ladies is infuriating, isn't it.
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: despair on Friday 02 September 16 19:25 BST (UK)
Here's one version-I'll try to corroborate  details(at least the death date is the same!)

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Friday 02 September 16 19:46 BST (UK)
Hello Despair,
Was there an attachment to your post?
Richard
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: despair on Friday 02 September 16 19:55 BST (UK)
Sorry I'll resend-meantime here is the will of Dorothy Eliza LLoyd(I hope)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01idr/

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: despair on Friday 02 September 16 19:58 BST (UK)
Here it is :-

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ids/

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Friday 02 September 16 20:14 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Roger.
That Royal Descent link gives a lot of information I had not seen before and fits with the facts I've uncovered. There are some other contradictions in trees I have seen, but those lack supporting documentation.
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So Owen was Owen Ford Lloyd born about 1755, but didn't marry Dorothy Eliza(beth) until 1796. I wonder if he had married before? Perhaps another Mary as I've seen in other trees?
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I really appreciate your help.
Richard
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: despair on Friday 02 September 16 20:33 BST (UK)
There is a 1754 Cardigan baptism that gives Owen,son of Thomas Lloyd Esq,that appears to  fit.Sadly,no mother given.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: despair on Friday 02 September 16 21:05 BST (UK)
The 1796 marriage in Somerset has Owen LLoyd,bachelor.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Friday 02 September 16 21:15 BST (UK)
It appears that Owen was the "wrong" side of 40 when he started a family.  :o
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Thanks Roger
R
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 03 September 16 20:06 BST (UK)
Baptisms (FindMyPast images)

Amelia, daughter of Col Owen LLoyd and Eliza his wife was baptized January 16th 1807 - place Cardigan.

Sadly, Amelia died in 1812

Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 03 September 16 20:37 BST (UK)
Find My past has a number of baptismal images for an Owen and Dorothy Eliza Lloyd (children William, Richard, Owen, Thomas, Louisa and Anna Eliza), all baptized Nov 23 1809 and registered Oct 27 1813 - place Cardigan. Their birth dates range from 1796 to 1805.

Two entries on the same page have been heavily scored/scribbled out but I am sure I can make out
"Amelia, daughter of Owen and Dorothy Eliza ....." against which a legible note has been added ie.

"X see January 16 1807"

This is the baptism of Amelia in my previous post.
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 03 September 16 20:48 BST (UK)
The Herefordshire Journal, 27 Jan 1796

Yesterday se'nnight was married Owen Lloyd, Esq, to Miss LLoyd of Abertrinant, Cardiganshire niece to Earl Lisburne

An Owen LLoyd married a Dorothy Elizabeth Lloyd at Walcot St Mary, 5 Jan 1796 (FindMyPast transcription)
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: Regorian on Saturday 03 September 16 21:23 BST (UK)
This family also part of the Earls of Lisburne (Irish establishment 18th Century). Family name Vaughan (Welsh). Lots of stuff on Wiki. Take a lot of copying out to put it all together.   
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Saturday 03 September 16 22:06 BST (UK)
Thanks everybody.
I am now convinced that Owen (Ford) Lloyd married Dorothy Elizabeth Lloyd and had eight children.
He was born about 1854 and died in 1812.
I have seen other trees stating he married a Mary, but I see no evidence of that.
Richard
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: rkive82 on Sunday 04 September 16 17:26 BST (UK)
Success! A friend with an interest in the Lloyd family just sent me this image in a prominent position from inside Llangoedmore Church.
The age for Dorothea Elizabeth is illegible, but the information here confirms everything we have discovered about the family.
Another successful post on Rootschat. Thanks everybody.
Richard
Title: Re: Lt. Col Owen Lloyd of Abertrinant died 9th Nov. 1812 - who were his relatives?
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 04 September 16 17:41 BST (UK)
Great to see confirmation of Owen's age.

From FindMyPast Burials (images)
Parish Church of Llangoedmore
Dorothy Eliza Lloyd, abode -late of Abertrinant, buried - February 6 1827, age 60 years