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Title: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 15:47 BST (UK)
I have William down as being born Holyhead Anglesey on 1901 census, but according to that so was his wife Mary (Riley) and she was born in Ireland.  According to records they married in Anglesey  in 1881. Family notes say he was born in Wales possibly Flintshire and was for some reason known as "Jack" Davies ???  He is named on his eldest daughters birth cert as William though! These notes also say he served in the Cheshire regiment but with no date, he would have been much too old for the 1914-18 war.    In 1881 census he was lodging in Beaumaris his trade a plasterer.  Any info would be brilliant as I seem to be banging my head against a brick wall on this one.
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 20 September 16 15:57 BST (UK)
The 1881 wedding index gives the spelling of Mary's surname as Reilly.  What information does this certificate give about Williams father, who were the witnesses
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 17:50 BST (UK)
Hi the 1881 has Mary Davies 21 Married b Holyhead with a Mary RILEY 96? b Ireland  Baker Street Holyhead
Census ref RG11/5594/100/55
1871 as REILLY in Harp Street b Ireland
Census ref RG10/5752/68/14

The couple and family are always in Baker Street from 1891/1901 in 1871 William 9 with Ann Davies b 1827 Montgomeryshire in
Baker Street RG10/5752/74/25
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:13 BST (UK)
Rosie, I havent got the marriage cert as yet for William.  Keyboard, yes that is the family in Baker St  my nan in law was born there, so there is a possibility he is the William Davies b 1861 Holyhead  who's mother was a Jones.
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:24 BST (UK)
Hi again, considering the first born male child of William & Mary was a David b 1884 I would suggest the baptism of William was 18th March 1863 Holyhead Father David occ Glazier Mother Ann
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:34 BST (UK)
Thanks Keyboard ;D Are there any other listings for the family in Baker St 1871?  I have a couple of weeks now to pull this side of the tree together and get it printed for sister in laws 73 Birthday, so have been up till 2am the last two nights digging through old notes and transcribing my original tree over to new software.........and finding a lot of mistakes ::)  I am just hoping with all the children they had if I add them to the tree that it will not need a printout of 40ft or more! My Great nan in law Sarah Higgins had a child every year from 1857 when she was 20 until her last one born in 1878 when she was 51, 11 children in all!
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:41 BST (UK)
Hi well one thing. I can confirm the father of William aged 9 in Baker Street 1871 was a David but he was a BRAZIER on 1861 census :-

Wynne Street, Holyhead ( Address on baptism)

David Davies 40
Ann 34
Catherine 12
Mary 11
Sarah 9
Elizabeth 6
Ann 4
Ellin 1
William Jones 14 Nephew
Census ref RG09/4373/67/28
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:53 BST (UK)
Hi again,  1851 lodging with a Jones family in Summer Lane, Holyhead

David 29 occ Quarryman
Ann 25
Catherine 2 b Abergele, Denbighshire
Mary 9 months b Abergele
Census ref HO107/2522/456/12
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 18:58 BST (UK)
Well we all know just how well things were transcribed back then! My surname was "changed" three times between 1874 and 1901 :o I wonder if a brazier would have been more likely back then than a glazier? I know William was known as a "master plasterer".   So I wonder if the Jones family in Holy head 1851 was Anns family, it seems likely as they did end up back with the parents in many instances when they frst married, does that one name any family members?  Will be owing you for looking this lot up :-*  Thank you for the info :D
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi again, I think that somewhere in my memory bank I recall Brazing and Glazing are in some way associated?
Keyboard86

PS look for Winifred Jones 39 in that 1851 Holyhead
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 19:24 BST (UK)
Brazing was working with brass, probably quite a lucrative trade back then. Winifred (Annes mum maybe?) is another name I keep coming across in the family  :)
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 19:37 BST (UK)
Brazing was working with brass, probably quite a lucrative trade back then. Winifred (Annes mum maybe?) is another name I keep coming across in the family  :)

1851 others :- ( You will have to learn how to use Census refs)!!

William Jones 46 Quarryman b Caernarvonshire
Winifred 39 Wife b Caernarvonshire
William 9 b Bethesda
Margaret 7 b Bethesda
Ellen 4 b Anglesey
Thomas 27 Married b Caernarvonshire
Ellen 42 Married b Anglesey
Catherine Roberts 18 Visitor b Flintshire
Thomas Onadly? 27 visitor b Ireland
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 20 September 16 20:00 BST (UK)
Hi again,  I have amended my 1861 William James aged 14 Nephew was incorrectly transcribed, he is shown on original as a Jones.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Davies b1862
Post by: toad on Tuesday 20 September 16 20:38 BST (UK)
Thank you so much. I did start all the family history in 2000, gave it up in 2008 when my dad died. I am just so rusty and forgetful now(I have been told it comes with age!) It took me ages to work out how to even post to one of these boards again.  I will get there in the end, this bit as I said is a rush job, and transcribing everything again from a win xp pc to a win 10 laptop and new tree software is really proving a daunting task........you know when you are sorry you had an idea? ::) I may need to read up on a couple of tutorials when I start back into my other parts of the tree, so I do know how to get info from the census records properly.