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Title: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: judypur on Tuesday 04 October 16 12:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
George Coupar (or alternative spellings) married Margaret Doig (Doeg) on 30 April 1825 at Coupar Angus.  The marriage record has no parent names on it.  The 1841 Census indicates he was 39 and born in the parish (Angus), so born about 1802.  One of his female children had a middle name of Maxwell which may be a parent or grandparents surname as this family often used surnames as middle names.

So far I haven't been able to establish his parents. If anyone has any ideas or thoughts, it would be appreciated.

Thank you
Judy
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 04 October 16 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi Judy have you tried looking for his death which will give you his parents names unless he died before 1855
Rosie
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 04 October 16 13:12 BST (UK)
his death which will give you his parents names unless he died before 1855

Rosie,

Only if the informant knew those details.

My 3x g g/father's death details were given by his daughter who knew his father's name but only knew his mother's forename, not her maiden name  ::)

Annie
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 04 October 16 13:25 BST (UK)
Yes Annie I know or sometimes the wrong names are given  ??? Anyway according to a few trees he died before 1851  ???
Rosie
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: judypur on Wednesday 05 October 16 00:57 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie,

Thank you for the idea. Unfortunately, he died in 1847 in Pitempton so no parents names were listed.

Regards
Judy
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 05 October 16 06:00 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie,

Thank you for the idea. Unfortunately, he died in 1847 in Pitempton so no parents names were listed.

Regards
Judy

That's a pity and so annoying I have a few like that  ;D
Rosie
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 05 October 16 09:52 BST (UK)
The 1841 Census indicates he was 39 and born in the parish (Angus)

No. The question in 1841 is whether the person was born in the same county, not the same parish.

Also Coupar Angus is one of those parishes that is partly in one county and partly in another. In this case part of the parish is in Angus and part of it is in Perthshire.

So he could have been born anywhere in Perthshire or Angus.

The 1841 census was taken on the night of 6/7 June. If his age is accurate (you cannot rely on this, of course), he would have been born between 7 June 1801 and 6 June 1802.
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: judypur on Wednesday 05 October 16 09:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Forfarian.
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: j9drom on Friday 20 October 17 17:25 BST (UK)
Judypur I think I may be descended from George from his son William who was aged two on the 1841 census.  Unless you know otherwise.... Do you have any further info on William later in life?
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: judypur on Saturday 21 October 17 07:30 BST (UK)
Hi j9drom,

I've sent you a personal message.

Regards
Judy
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: j9drom on Saturday 21 October 17 07:38 BST (UK)
Judypur Thanks for your pm.  Very excited!  It appears that I have to make three postings on here before I can reply to your pm!.  This is  only my second.....
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: j9drom on Saturday 21 October 17 07:39 BST (UK)
Judypur  Third message so hopefully I will now be able to reply to your pm.
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: judypur on Saturday 21 October 17 13:41 BST (UK)
That's funny but I have your PM so you were successful.
Title: Re: George Coupar (Cowper/Couper/Cooper) about 1803 - where was he born?
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 13 November 17 01:14 GMT (UK)
George Coupar (or alternative spellings) married Margaret Doig (Doeg) on 30 April 1825 at Coupar Angus. 1841 Census indicates he was 39 so born about 1802.  One of his female children had a middle name of Maxwell which may be a parent or grandparents surname

So far I haven't been able to establish his parents. If anyone has any ideas or thoughts, it would be appreciated.

It may be an idea to give the address on the 1841 & list names of all known children in order/where they were born (areas) & George's occupation?

Annie