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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Edmcmanus on Wednesday 19 October 16 22:22 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace my ancestors . My father William John Micmacs born 20th November 1912 . The birth certificate shows he was born at Newcastle upon Tyne workhouse mother Rose McManus . I can't find anything else so I have had to give up .
Thanks in advance if anyone can help
Regards
Eddie
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Hi, have you checked out the 1911 census in searching for Rose? There are a number of Rose's around this time, although not in the same area. Did Rose have any other children? If she died before 1991, and she was still living in 1939, you can trace her through the 1939 register. Are there any additional details on the birth certificate which could give clues?
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
His birth registration just shows him as William
Births December qtr 1912
William McManus mmn = McManus Newcastle on Tyne 10b 113
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A Rose A McManus married Arthur Frost in Newcastle in 1917. Did your father have any half siblings?
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There is also a Rose Mcmanus b1870 d1914 in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne district. It may be worth ordering this death certificate to see if they are one and the same person. Further records seem to reveal that this was misspelt, and she was actually born Rosa, not Rose, however; she was christened and born 1868 to Catholic parents.
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Many thanks to everybody who have posted details to help me trace my father . Just one more question if I may are there any records of the workhouse available to view . Thanks again
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I expect that Tyne and Wear Archives would have them but all I can see on their online catalogue is about the architects. Perhaps you might be better at searching than I am
https://twarchives.org.uk/collection/catalogue
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I am trying to trace my grandmother she gave birth to my father 20/11/1912 at the workhouse Newcastle upon Tyne Can anybody help thank you
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Hi
Was your father subsequently adopted or was he raised by Rose?
What other info do you have about her apart from her name?
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Hi Carole, you have answered re the son William John Mcmanus in 2016 and potential marriage of a Rose A Mcmanus to an Arthur G Frost Sept 1917
Also note a birth of a Samuel Mcmanus Dec qtr 1915 Tynemouth mmn Mcmanus
Keyboard
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Thanks KB
Ed - you never answered my question re half siblings on your duplicate thread so we have no idea if the 1917 marriage was correct. Did you check out the Workhouse records as advised?
To avoid any further duplication of info I will ask the moderator to merge this post with your 2016 one
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topics merged
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Hi I don't know if I am contacting you via the correct means but I wish to apologise for contacting the site for a search . I think I posed a question in 2016 concerning my father William McManus and his mother Rose McManus . I then received some excellent information . I then became very ill and was unable to continue the search . I recently decided to start again but didn't realise that I was on the same site . I must apologise for this and thank everybody for the excellent work an information supplied . I have now been able to apply to get a copy of birth certificates,death certificates and copies of records from the workhouse . I am so sorry for the double enquiry but thanks to you all I am on the right track.
Kind regards
Eddie McManus .
Hi Eddie,
I have merged your two topics for you.
I was sorry to hear you have been so poorly, Glad to see you back on the search again.
Regards
Sarah
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Hi, have you checked out the 1911 census in searching for Rose? There are a number of Rose's around this time, although not in the same area. Did Rose have any other children? If she died before 1991, and she was still living in 1939, you can trace her through the 1939 register. Are there any additional details on the birth certificate which could give clues?
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Thanks haven't checked yet and looking at the 39 register. No knowledge of any other children .
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Hi I am waiting for details of the Workhouse records and a birth certificate of William . I am not aware of any siblings or if he was raised by Rose . Thanks for your help it is getting interesting thanks to the help I am getting
Ed
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Hi glad to see you are back on track, other than the 1915 Tynemouth birth of a Samuel Mcmanus mmn Mcmanus, possibly Arthur G Frost and Rose ( if the correct Rose) had a son Arthur J 1920 Newcastle T 10b 72 mmn MCMANYS?
Keyboard86
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Hi Thanks for the information hoping that it is the right Rose I'll follow on with that . Thanks again
Ef
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I think we can rule out the 1917 marriage. Rose A Frost born about 1899 died 1968 Northumberland. With that birthyear she would only have been 13 yrs old when your father was born