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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Tikva on Friday 04 November 16 00:08 GMT (UK)
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I'm not sure if anyone will be able to give me the information I'm looking for, but hoping to find the adoptive parents names of one Ernest Wheeler, middle name maybe Richard, apparently born on the 13th of June 1900. The DOB was obtained from his Death entry on the Historical BMD website, so not sure how valid it is, and nothing comes up when I search the Births on the same site.
Have been in touch with Internal Affairs re the process involved in obtaining this persons pre-adoptive Birth Certificate, but wanted to research the adoption parents side as well. Thanks in advance for any help :)
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Do you mean that you do not know the names of his birth and adoptive parents?
How do you know that he was adopted? Do you know his place of birth....NZ?
Do you have the death certificate?. Is there a marriage record for him in NZ?
I think that formal adoption records would not have existed in 1900?. If he was not raised by his parents, there might have been an informal arrangement for his care ie no records to find.
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Thank you for your reply. At this time, I am trying to obtain the names of his adoptive parents, not his biological parents. Yes, he was apparently legally adopted, and yes, also born in New Zealand.
As I am doing this research for a friend, I have not obtained a Death Certificate or Marriage Certificate (which is available) as it is cost prohibitive at this time.
The "story" that was passed down through my friends father, son of Ernest Wheeler, was that he was orphaned, then adopted.
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Hi Tikva
Are you able to tell us the names of his biological parents ?
If for any reason you don't wish to name the parents in this thread, then you could send me a PM with their names. I'm happy to look further for you.
~ Lu
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.... one Ernest Wheeler, middle name maybe Richard, apparently born on the 13th of June 1900. The DOB was obtained from his Death entry on the Historical BMD website, so not sure how valid it is, ....
Mmm ... just incidentally ... the only Ernest WHEELER showing on NZ Death index (online) with a birthyear c. 1900, is
"Ernest Richard WHEELER" ... date of birth is given as "13 August 1900" ???
Can't see an Ernest WHEELER with a d.o.b. "13 June 1900" ???
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva
Can you also tell us please where this man lived ... his place of death etc. ? (There are a number of men on electoral rolls with same name).
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva
Are you able to tell us the names of his biological parents ?
If for any reason you don't wish to name the parents in this thread, then you could send me a PM with their names. I'm happy to look further for you.
~ Lu
No - finding out that information is something my friend would like to do when she can afford it - well over $200 to do so.
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.... one Ernest Wheeler, middle name maybe Richard, apparently born on the 13th of June 1900. The DOB was obtained from his Death entry on the Historical BMD website, so not sure how valid it is, ....
Mmm ... just incidentally ... the only Ernest WHEELER showing on NZ Death index (online) with a birthyear c. 1900, is
"Ernest Richard WHEELER" ... date of birth is given as "13 August 1900" ???
Can't see an Ernest WHEELER with a d.o.b. "13 June 1900" ???
~ Lu
You are correct - sorry, not feeling too well right now and made an error. His DOB is apparently 13 August 1900. My apologies.
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Hi ... just adding that I can't see anyone named Ernest Richard WHEELER on NZ electoral rolls ... there are though a number of "Ernest WHEELER's".
To help us help you, can you supply some further details please ... such as :
* Where this man lived in New Zealand
* The name of his spouse (wife)
* Any idea of where he died ?
* His occupation etc. etc.
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva
Can you also tell us please where this man lived ... his place of death etc. ? (There are a number of men on electoral rolls with same name).
~ Lu
Hi Lu,
He died in Mosgiel, and from the post-marriage Electoral Roll records I could find, these are the addresses he was residing at:
1935 - 3 River Street, Gore
1938 - 3 River Street, Gore
1946 - 111 King Edward Street, Dunedin
1949 - 111 King Edward Street, Dunedin
1949 - 37 Richardson Street, Dunedin
1949 - 3A Bowen Street, Dunedin
1954 - 3A Bowen Street, Dunedin
1957 - 3A Bowen Street, Dunedin
1963 - 33 Church Street, Mosgiel
1969 - 33 Church Street, Mosgiel
1972 - 33 Church Street, Mosgiel
I did find an entry in the "New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950" on Ancestry for an Ernest Richard Wheeler, and that particular birth was registered at Rakaia, Canterbury, New Zealand.
He married a Minnie Hannah Weir on the 11 September 1930.
I have searched Paperspast already in the hopes that it might provide more information, but unfortunately did not have any success.
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Yes, I'd also found the Rakaia birth registration. ;)
I'm not sure if anyone will be able to give me the information I'm looking for, but hoping to find the adoptive parents names of one Ernest Wheeler, ....
Hi ... is there some reason you are unable to provide us with more information about this Ernest ?
[If there is info that you'd rather withhold, then please just say so. ;) We only ask additional questions so that we can "search other avenues" which you may not perhaps have access to. And ... yes, we may just be able to help. :)
~ Lu
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Thanks Tikva ... I see you have added information (re: his marriage) to your earlier reply. ;)
(Our posts crossed).
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva
I have found possible "adoptive parents" for Ernest.
Need to to a lot more checking of records though to ensure I'm on the right track.
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva
I have found possible "adoptive parents" for Ernest.
Need to to a lot more checking of records though to ensure I'm on the right track.
~ Lu
Wow, thank you Lu!! Fingers crossed :)
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Haven't forgotten about this, Tikva.
Still compiling info ... some of which is proving a tad elusive. ;D
~ Lu
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Thank you Lu - good to know it wasn't just me who was finding the information rather elusive, lol.
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Perhaps you could email the Funeral Director which is Campbell and Son's in Mosgiel as they could provide you with the info they have
according to the Dunedin Cemetery records his Ashes were scattered
http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=142552&type=Cremation
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Haven't forgotten about this, Tikva.
Still compiling info ... some of which is proving a tad elusive. ;D
~ Lu
Hi Lu,
Just thought I'd check to see if you'd had any success with this? Thanks!
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Hi Tikva ... I did. Apologies ... overlooked posting the info here, but will do shortly.
~ Lu
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Hi Tikva,
I was wondering if Ernest's adoptive parents have been identified as per Lucy2's last post?
Spades
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Hi Spades,
No, unfortunately they haven't as yet.
Regards
Tikva
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Do you know that you can pay $265 assuming that is still the price considering the price increase starting today and let BMD find the info, they will get the deaths of all 4 parents (biological and adopted) and you will get the biological birth certificate
(the price has most likely changed but do check with NZ BMD)
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Tikva ... I have some information still to post for you.
~ Lu
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Tikva ... I have some information still to post for you.
~ Lu
Thank you Lu :)