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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Irish Language => Topic started by: finglaspete on Monday 07 November 16 19:12 GMT (UK)
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On a census record from 1911, the person has filled out the form 'as Gaelge' in the birthplace section, he has written what is in the attachment.
Any suggestions as to what it is, very much appreciated.
Pete
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Can you post the direct link yo iy so one can at least see what County it's in??
www.census............... ??
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlow ?
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Can you post the direct link to it so one can at least see what County it's in??
www.census............... ??
If you look the person up you'll see what county it is in..... BEFORE you get to that page!!
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Ah i see wondered where he was 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Goldsmith_Street/1324521/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Belvidere_Road/29960/
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test
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Sorry Hallmark, yes it's the one in Belvedere road that Daithí posted the link.
Pete
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Sorry Hallmark, yes it's the one in Belvedere road that Daithí posted the link.
Pete
Is 1901 correct?? Waterford??
ORourke Thomas P 20 Male Boarder R Catholic Co Waterford Sorting Clerk G P O
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Hallmark
That's the other one in Goldsmith Street, I said that it was the other one that Dathí posted in Belvedere Road :)
Here's the link for you again if you missed it the first time :)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Belvidere_Road/29960/
Do you think you have an answer Hallmark, I'd love it if you do :)
Pete
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Hallmark
That's the other one in Goldsmith Street, I said that it was the other one that Dathí posted in Belvedere Road :)
Here's the link for you again if you missed it the first time :)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Belvidere_Road/29960/
Do you think you have an answer Hallmark, I'd love it if you do :)
Pete
I saw the 1911 one!
I asked was the 1901 correct??
This one!!!! http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Goldsmith_Street/1324521/
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IF not..
where was he in 1901??
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Hallmark,
I asked the question about the word in Irish, if you can answer that then cool, but as you are so concerned about the other Thomas, he was in Bagenalstown in the 1911.
I am really looking forward to you answering my question though :)
Pete
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Hallmark,
Apologies my good friend, that is him in the 1911 census on Belvedere road, he's my Grandads brother, unfortunately he came to an untimely end in Bagenalstown a handful of years after this, very unfortunate situation, very sad for his parents.
Now back to the question, Hallmark, thank you for all your attention on this matter, and I really appreciate your concerns about my Great Uncle Thomas or Tomás as he liked to be called. Now we've cleared up the matter that concerns you, maybe you can impress me with you knowledge 'As Gaelge'
Go raith maith agat!!
Peadar :)
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the snippet posted seems to say CEITHEARLAC, now spelt CEATHARLACH = CARLOW
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Thank you Eadaoin
I couldn't see that at all, now you say it, I can see it!! Though the truth was he was born in Sallypark, Co, Waterford, so was looking for Port Lairge, I also find that older Irish a bit harder to read than the stuff you see on road signs and TG4!
Once again, many thanks for your help, and you too Daithí.
All the best
Pete
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Hallmark,
Apologies my good friend, that is him in the 1911 census on Belvedere road, he's my Grandads brother, unfortunately he came to an untimely end in Bagenalstown a handful of years after this, very unfortunate situation, very sad for his parents.
Now back to the question, Hallmark, thank you for all your attention on this matter, and I really appreciate your concerns about my Great Uncle Thomas or Tomás as he liked to be called. Now we've cleared up the matter that concerns you, maybe you can impress me with you knowledge 'As Gaelge'
Go raith maith agat!!
Peadar :)
Yes I know that, only wanted to know where he was in 1901 so I could look at that to see what he said then! Hence asked a few times about 1901
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Hallmark,
Yes, it seems rather unusual that he is staunchly Irish language based in 1911, but not in 1901, his his surname is even spelt wrong in the 1901, strange. Poor lad, he had a lot of promise but went on the downward spiral of addiction, to an untimely death in 1914, the more i see about him, the sadder i feel.
Thanks for your attention Hallmark, I am really glad I got an answer in the end.
All the best
Pete.
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What's strange about mistakes in his 1901 census entry? he didn't personally fill out the form-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003753508/
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Aghadowey
If you knew my family, particularly the O'Rorkes, they were and are still are very insistent about the spelling of their name, I think most people are. I think the reason that the O'Rorke's were so fussy on this though, was because they wanted to define themselves as being from a particular branch of the Rourke line, as you know, there are so many variations of that name, as there are with many others. Rork, Rorke, O'Rorke, Rark, Ui Ruairc, O'Ruairc, O'Rourke, Rourke, Roarke and so on, all of which sound the same, but are all distinctly different families. After all, if my name was Smith, I would insist on not being called Smyth, Smythe or Schmidt would I? Nor you or anyone else.
That is why I said what I said, and thank you for taking a look sir, and for your concern :)
Pete
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Ceithearlac = Ceatharlach - Carlow!
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Thank you Coc
The ironic thing about it was that he wasn't actually from Carlow, maybe he just didn't know, he was from Waterford, so thinking of Port Lairge, I see that on the form, though someone pointed it out to me, then I realised how simple it was.
This is a great page, many thanks.
Pete