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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: sandra and robin on Monday 14 November 16 10:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello can anyone help me ? am trying to find information about my great grandmother her name was jane armstrong nicholls nee bewley.she was born in frizington in 1865.we looked for a headstone in st pauls churchyard but could not find her.the family has some connection to the griffin public house .thanks for any help.
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Where has the post gone that I was just replying to - re Jane Armstrong Bewley and Richard James Nicholls ? Looking for great grandparents grave at St Pauls Frizington ?
Welcome to RootsChat
Have you looked for your great grandparents on census records ?
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 - Jane Bewley - Born Frizington 1865 - aged 22 years - - Marriage Arlecdon, Cumberland, 2 April 1887 - father Joseph Bewley - spouse - Richard James Nicholls.
Could she have buried at Arlecdon where they married ? Less tha a couple of miles between the two.
Sandra
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An old message board post (2002) n the history of The Griffin
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CUMBERLAND/2006-06/1150954785
Sandra
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Someone forgot to move my replies when they moved this post from Old Photographs of Frizington - Cumberland.................now attached again ;)
Welcome to RootsChat
Have you looked for your great grandparents on census records ?
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 - Jane Bewley - Born Frizington 1865 - aged 22 years - - Marriage Arlecdon, Cumberland, 2 April 1887 - father Joseph Bewley - spouse - Richard James Nicholls.
Could she have buried at Arlecdon where they married ? Less tha a couple of miles between the two.
Sandra
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An old message board post (2002) n the history of The Griffin
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CUMBERLAND/2006-06/1150954785
Sandra
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Just tried to post again and the topic board was off limits - ::) ::)
1891 8 Yeathouse Road Frizington
Richard J Nicholls 24 Born Moor Row. Civil Mining Engineer.
Jane A Nicholls 25 Born Frizington.
John Nicholls 3 Born Frizington.
Margaret J Nicholls 2 Born Eskett.
I wonder if this family might have gone abroad - South Africa perhaps ? Do you have any idea if that might be correct
Sandra
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Daughter Margaret J Nichols passed away 15 February 1909 - administration 15 May
Can't transcribe the 1911 census for the married son "John" because of copyright -
Can't transcribe the 1911 census for Jane Nichols and son William (born 1897 in Kimberley Cape Colony)
http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/news/Eyesore-pub-could-be-demolished-for-homes-0099ba3f-6524-4bc8-910f-b3b404682083-ds
Sandra
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You probably have this info but in case someone else is trying to help - Jane A Nicholls - Birth Date: abt 1865 - Registration Mar 1944 - 79 years - Registration district Whitehaven Cumberland.
Volume 10b - Page 735
Sandra
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It was Jane's mother who was the Inn-Keeper at the Griffin Hotel in 1871
Margaret Bewley 29 Inn-Keeper. Widowed.
Joseph Bewley 10 John Bewley 8
William Bewley 7 Jane A Bewley 6
Anne F Bewley 2
Margaret Wilson 12 Niece
Ann Jackson 38 Boarder
Catherine Gribbin 19 Servant.
Private anc tree shows Margaret Cook - Griffin Hotel -
Sandra
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Jane's husband - Richard James Nicholls - 1867–1903 - born 19 October 1867 - Egremont, Cumberland, England - passed away 25 November 1903 - Kimberley, Northern Cape, South Africa.
Sandra
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United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921 - Richard James Nicholls - Initiation Date: 12 May 1892 - First Payment Year on Register 1893 - Year Range 1887-1909
Profession: Contractor - Lodge Charles Warren Lodge - Kimberley, S Africa - Lodge Number 1832
Folio Number 75
Sandra
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The parents of Richard James Nicholls are buried at Egremont Cemetery - John Nicholls was buried 4 March 1895 - Mary Nicholls 12 April 1905 died at 46 Dalzell Street Moor Row. Both buried A Uncon 499 - Grave purchased by Mary in 1895.
Sandra
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She died on the 8th March 1944 at Frizington Road and was buried at Frizington. Her mother Margaret Cook was one of my family. Margaret was landlady at Griffin before she married Joseph Bewley. I have made contact with family members on Bewley side who did go to S Africa. Contact me personally for more details if you want.
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1861 Griffin Inn Public House Frizington Cumberland.
Coulthard Crosthwaite 49 Innkeeper and Farmer of 35 acres.
Isabella Crosthwaite 39
Mary Crosthwaite 9 John Crosthwaite 5
Sarah Crosthwaite 3 Mark Crosthwaite 1
Sarah Buchannan 27
Sandra
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Notice the OP has been on line a couple of time, really hoping they will acknowledge the thread.
By making one more post they would be able to use the PM system to contact clarysage by personal message for more details.
Sandra
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Hi.we would like to thank everyone that has helped us find out about jane armstrong nicholls .we did not know there was so many relations .also now know that richard james nicholls was born in moor row.we thought he was born in cornwall .also now know that richards father was called john . thanks again .
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You're very welcome - pleased to have helped.
Richard's father John Nichols was born in Cornwall acoording to the 1871 census -
Brother Stephen nichols was born in Cornwall - Q1 - 1853 - Penzance. Sadly Stephen Nichols also passed away in Kimberley South Africa.
Stephen married Hannah Bella Muncaster - Q2 - 1874 - Whitehaven Cumberland - 10b 1090
Sandra
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Hannah Bella Nichols the wife of Stephen also passed away in South Africa - 10 July 1931 -
Sandra
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Reply 16 - mentions Jacob George in the probate for Stephen Nichols -
Jacob George - Mothers maiden surname Nichols
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in Whitehaven Volume 10B Page 607
Mother was Jane Nichols sister to Richard James Nichols and Stephen Nichols.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Richard J Nicholls hailed from The Garras, Gulval, Penzance. The Garras being a tenement and adjacent farm. His father [John Cock I think] was the Captain at Ding Dong Mine.
You can see from the census Richard was off the radar for a while, he and a brother headed West to the states, to a mining district not too far from Chicago leaving Jane Armstrong alone to her own devices. I believe it was an ore mine that they worked in over there.
Richard later headed to Kimberley in the Northern Cape where he mined and lfought with Cecil Rhodes private army. He managed to buy land there "Spion" something or other, I forget [not Kop!]. There was some legal dispute with his joint investor and Richard lost the case and the land. Not long after he took a tumble down the "great hole" of Kimberley he'd help engineer; he died shortly after. The Diamond Fields Advertiser, reported, "he was attended by a goodly gathering of freemasons". RJ and brother Stephen were both members of the Charles Warren Lodge. RJ's son Walter was born out there. Jane then found her way back to Frizington with son Walter where it is alleged she became a bit of a soak and spent the supposedly nice little egg nest that RJ had put aside.
Jane is buried in St Paul's churchyard just down from the road from the Griffin. Some years back I visited putting flowers on her grave. I never really understood her past, I know she was friendly with either the Cammells or the Lairds of the shipbuilding dynasty. I know this because when Walter was gassed during WW1, the baron sent a coach and horses to collect him from the docks.
Jane is my Great-Grandmother.
Best wishes
Jim A Nicholls
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Hi Jim
Welcome to RootsChat
Sadly I was not related but just trying to help out with a little research. Sounds a very interesting family story. Hope you all manage to make contact with each other to exchange family stories.
Thank you very much for the feedback, it is always appreciated.
Regards
Sandra
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message sent to me from Robin in error..
To Sandra Topic Jane Armstrong Nicholls nee Bewley Thank you for passing on the information sorry for the delay I am still learning how to send messages Jim A Nicholls will be my second cousin I did not know we had any more relations on that side of the family untill last year I have been in contact with his mother and brother Family lost contact nearly 70 years ago I dont know how to get in contact with him though We did not know anything about Richard except that he died young My nan told me that William got gassed in the First World War she also told me that they had to hide down the mines to escape the Boers She also told me a bit about Cecil Rhodes We may also have relations on the Nicholls side in South Africa as I have recently discovered photographs It would be interesting to know what happened to Stephen Nicholls Thanks for your help I have passed it on to my uncle
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Hi Robin,
That you for your message and update. If you click on Jims name and then send pm in the left hand margin on next screen, this should get you to the message screen where you can send Jim a private message.
A little information on Stephen Nicholls - Kimberley Cape Province
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2QM-H32C
Sandra
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Probate
- Stephen Nicholls - South Africa, Cape Province, Kimberley, Probate Records of the Supreme Court.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-Y7YK-3?i=789&cc=2521616
Spouse Hannah Bella Nicholls
Children - William John Nicholls - May Nicholls - Elizabeth Jane Nicholls - Stephen Nicholls - Richard Nichols - Hannah Bella Nicholls Jnr - George Nichols (minor)
Sandra
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Flick thru the images................Son - William John Nicholls - aged 32 years - fatal injured in a mine fall of blue under ground - passed away 8 May 1907 - Kimberley Hospital. (page 2)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-Y7P7-1?i=790&cc=2521616
Hannah Bella Nicholls - aged 80 years - East London Cemetery. 10 July 1931.
Sandra
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Probate for Hannah Bella Nicholls. 10 July 1931 probate 30 December 1938
Sandra
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Death Notice for Richard J Nicholls - 25 November 1903
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-D9TQ-1?i=199&cc=2521616
Sandra
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The parents of Stephen Nichols are buried at Egremont Cemetery -
John Nicholls - 4/3/1895 - aged 66 years - A uncon 499 (died at Moor Row)
Mary Nicholls - 12/4/1905 - aged 72 years - A uncon 499 (died at 46 Dalzell Street Moor Row)
The section A uncon is to the left as you go through the front gates.
Sandra
Oops - already given earlier in thread. :-\
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Probate for John Nicholls.
Sandra
Ooops - Ive already given this one earlier. :-\
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William John Nicholls - - passed away 8 May 1907 Kimberley South Africa - single - informant brother in law Thos Looney.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-89VR-2?i=120&cc=2521616
Sandra