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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Laois (Queens) => Topic started by: liamcornes1983 on Wednesday 16 November 16 12:00 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone tell me where Queen's County Prison was, and if photos Exist? My great great great -grandfather James Hibbets was here for assault in 1876, aged 19 .
Many Thanks
Liam
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Courtesy of Google...
https://www.google.ie/search?q=portlaoise+prison&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gws_rd=cr&ei=rk0sWKeJEYzMgAacmYeAAw
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Was Queen's County Gaol, and Maryborough one and the same?
Courtesy of Google...
https://www.google.ie/search?q=portlaoise+prison&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gws_rd=cr&ei=rk0sWKeJEYzMgAacmYeAAw
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As any true Irishman should know, Maryborough is now known as Port Laoise, and is/was the county town of Leix (Laoighis).
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As any true Irishman should know, Maryborough is now known as Port Laoise, and is/was the county town of Leix (Laoighis).
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I'm not from Ireland, so I wouldn't have known, thanks for clarifying that Maryborough and Queen's County Gaol are one and the same.
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I'm not from Ireland, so I wouldn't have known, thanks for clarifying that Maryborough and Queen's County Gaol are one and the same.
I don't know about the gaol, but before the formation of the republic of Ireland in 1922 (i.e. when Ireland was part of the UK) Maryborough (presumably named after Queen Mary ~1700) was the county town of Queen's County. After that, Irish names were given to both. As a county town I am sure it would have had a jail, and I seem to remember a lot happening there in the 1970s or thereabouts.
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Might be the wrong prison.
Look at this list http://www.findmypast.ie/articles/world-records/full-list-of-the-irish-family-history-records/institutions-and-organisations/irish-prison-registers-1790-1924
There are two listed for Laois, Maryborough and Queens County.
Maybe they changed the name of the prison in 1829 to Queens County.
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There was a prison on Church St attached to the court house but I can't find a name for it (other than Old Gaol)and it was replaced by today's one on Dublin Road, which was built in 1830 but none of the records dates seem to fit.
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=LA®no=12506025
I can't find any other one in Laois.
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Might be the wrong prison.
Look at this list http://www.findmypast.ie/articles/world-records/full-list-of-the-irish-family-history-records/institutions-and-organisations/irish-prison-registers-1790-1924
There are two listed for Laois, Maryborough and Queens County.
Maybe they changed the name of the prison in 1829 to Queens County.
This is what puzzled me, my Grandfather in 1876 was sent to Queen's County Gaol for assault, then 4 years later was sent to Maryborough in the same County, so would they have been interchangeably named, for the one Gaol?
Liam
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This is what puzzled me, my Grandfather in 1876 was sent to Queen's County Gaol for assault, then 4 years later was sent to Maryborough in the same County, so would they have been interchangeably named, for the one Gaol?
Liam
I don't see why not, as those names are for the county and the town. A county town in those days would have had the jail for the county - though a populous area would have had more. A rural Irish county may only have needed one?
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I was looking at the Registered Papers of the Chief Secretary http://www.csorp.nationalarchives.ie/index.html
There are a couple of letters about an attempted escape in 1819, the title in each case names Queens County Jail and the notes name Maryborough jail.
So it does appear to be the same jail by two names.
Anything before 1830 would be from Church Street, and after that from the 'new' prison on Dublin Road.
Doesn't explain why there are two different sets of records though.
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I was looking at the Registered Papers of the Chief Secretary http://www.csorp.nationalarchives.ie/index.html
There are a couple of letters about an attempted escape in 1819, the title in each case names Queens County Jail and the notes name Maryborough jail.
So it does appear to be the same jail by two names.
Anything before 1830 would be from Church Street, and after that from the 'new' prison on Dublin Road.
Doesn't explain why there are two different sets of records though.
Thanks for your help.
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This is what puzzled me, my Grandfather in 1876 was sent to Queen's County Gaol for assault, then 4 years later was sent to Maryborough in the same County, so would they have been interchangeably named, for the one Gaol?
Liam
I don't see why not, as those names are for the county and the town. A county town in those days would have had the jail for the county - though a populous area would have had more. A rural Irish county may only have needed one?
Thanks for your help