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Title: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:01 GMT (UK)

I have a Herbert William Griffiths born Shrewsbury 1906; registered Atchem.
In 1911 he was with his Griffiths grandparents.

I have no idea who his parents are. Can anybody be of any help?
(My list of to-get Certificates is a bit loooong as it is  ::))

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: groom on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:26 GMT (UK)

According to the GRO site there is no mother's maiden name given, therefore the chances are that he was illegitimate.

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:27 GMT (UK)

As no mother's maiden name mentioned on Gro another certificate to add to your list  ;D
Rosie

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Alberbury on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:38 GMT (UK)

1911 Census who are his grandparents? Then you could work from them.

Name   Herbert William Griffiths
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1911
County   Shropshire
Parish   Shrewsbury St Julian
Sub-District   St Mary
Registration District   Atcham
Gender   Male
Age   5
Birthplace   Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Record Type   Household

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:43 GMT (UK)

There are a few family members there so would be a bit hard finding the right parent
Rosie

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: groom on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:51 GMT (UK)

There is also another older grandson with them as well, looks as if his mother's maiden name was Wynn from the GRO site. Were there any older daughters shown in the 1901 census, if not the chances are that Herbert is the son of the oldest daughter shown in the 1911.

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Wednesday 11 January 17 13:57 GMT (UK)

Going off on a slight tangent Groom - what GRO site gives the mothers maiden name, please?

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: groom on Wednesday 11 January 17 14:07 GMT (UK)

www.gro.gov.uk

You have to register, but it's free. They have added mother's maiden names and ages of death on records before 1911, it used to be only after 1911, so it is very useful.

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Wednesday 11 January 17 14:10 GMT (UK)

Thanks Groom - news to me!!

Back to the original string. My money's on Dorothy Griffiths, born 1889 as the mother of Herbert.
But maybe I'll have to get the BCert  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 11 January 17 15:18 GMT (UK)

Hi

1901 shows an "Emma 18" as another potential mother in the family.

Ray

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Wednesday 11 January 17 15:54 GMT (UK)

"Emma" is a bit complicated and probably another string.

I think she may be Ellen Mary Mildred and leave it at that  ;)

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Wednesday 11 January 17 16:47 GMT (UK)

Broom - back to the GRO. ( :) Thanks again for the info, found several Maiden names I hadn't got).

However, had one or two I tried with no Mother's maiden name. I "suspect" they may be illegitimate. Do you know if GRO has a rule: "Illegitimate No Maiden Name Given"?

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: groom on Wednesday 11 January 17 17:52 GMT (UK)

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Do you know if GRO has a rule: "Illegitimate No Maiden Name Given"?

Not necessarily a rule, but I've found that is usually the case.

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 11 January 17 22:47 GMT (UK)

Hi

"Emma 18" + others ( 1901 D ian A )

Leave them to you then, unless you need help?

Ray

Title: Re: Herbert William Griffiths, 1906, Shrewsbury
Post by: Mike Thw on Thursday 12 January 17 08:21 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the offer Ray, but I'm OK with rest of family.

Mike