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Title: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: clancam37 on Saturday 14 January 17 04:39 GMT (UK)
Can sks please help.  Looking for more information re a death at Dundee recorded 3rd November 1891 of John Campbell, born Perthshire.  Hope to be able to attach an image from Find My Past of a record of death, not sure he could have died November 1891 or earlier -- there is another date under the ship's name.
Trust someone can assist with further data re this John Campbell identity.
Kind regards
clancam37
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: Magiccat1978 on Saturday 14 January 17 09:33 GMT (UK)
Hi

A quick free index search on Scotlands people shows a Will that might be your mans.

Campbell
John
19/12/1891
Shipmaster, 318 Perth Road, Dundee, d. 03/11/1891 at Dundee, intestate
Dundee Sheriff Court
SC45/31/43

It costs 10 credits to view but if you think it matches it might be worth an look, I've found all sorts of useful info and family members listed in ancestors Wills.

Off to see what else I can find

Laura
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 14 January 17 09:42 GMT (UK)
At 318 Perth Road, Dundee, on 3rd inst. Captain John Campbell aged 68...

(Aberdeen Press and Journal and several other newspapers,  4 November 1891)
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 14 January 17 09:49 GMT (UK)
From the Captains Index to Lloyds Registers at the London Guildhall Library:

CAMPBELL, John b. Perthshire 1823 C18841 Dundee 1865
vol.3 1865-1873; vol.17 1874-1878; vol.30 1880-1884; vol.45 1890

http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 14 January 17 09:55 GMT (UK)
He died intestate so there is no will. The Probate Index shows that confirmation was granted to Isabell Cameron Campbell or Mortimer, wife of John Mortimer commission  merchant and produce broker of Aberdeen. 

Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 14 January 17 10:24 GMT (UK)
His death certificate is available to view/download at modest cost on Scotland's People - 1891, Dundee St Peter 282.4, No 494. This should give the name(s) of any wif/ves and the full names of both his parents including his mother's maiden surname.

You cannot get this information from FindMyPast.
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: clancam37 on Sunday 15 January 17 04:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your informative reply.  Much appreciated.
Will follow this up
Kind regards
clancam37
Hi

A quick free index search on Scotlands people shows a Will that might be your mans.

Campbell
John
19/12/1891
Shipmaster, 318 Perth Road, Dundee, d. 03/11/1891 at Dundee, intestate
Dundee Sheriff Court
SC45/31/43

It costs 10 credits to view but if you think it matches it might be worth an look, I've found all sorts of useful info and family members listed in ancestors Wills.

Off to see what else I can find

Laura
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: clancam37 on Sunday 15 January 17 04:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shaun J for your replies.  Will check these names you sent -- they are no relation -- could be business related. MY GGF was born Perthshire 1826 and his Dundee issued Cert. was Nod: 88690.
Kind regards
clancam37
He died intestate so there is no will. The Probate Index shows that confirmation was granted to Isabell Cameron Campbell or Mortimer, wife of John Mortimer commission  merchant and produce broker of Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: clancam37 on Sunday 15 January 17 04:21 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Forfarian for your reply.  May gave to order the death certificate as a last resort.
Kind regards
clancam37
His death certificate is available to view/download at modest cost on Scotland's People - 1891, Dundee St Peter 282.4, No 494. This should give the name(s) of any wif/ves and the full names of both his parents including his mother's maiden surname.

You cannot get this information from FindMyPast.
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 15 January 17 09:38 GMT (UK)
May gave to order the death certificate as a last resort.
You may as well bite the bullet and do it now. There isn't really an alternative, and it will cost you less than a cup of coffee or a pint of beer.
Title: Re: Ship "Persian" Master's death
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 15 January 17 10:24 GMT (UK)
Quote
they are no relation

John Mortimer married Isabell(a) Cameron Campbell in Dundee, 23 December 1874.  From the censuses, she was born circa 1852/3

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTVW-TVS

Looks like she was John Campbell's daughter:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB89-MHY