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I wonder if someone could help with this?
I'm looking for William Wilson. So far I have only been able to find him in 1841 living at Alkington Hall, Alkington, Whitchurch. He was aged 42 and a farmer.
Also in the household were Thomas Wilson, 25; Mary Wilson, 21; Martha Wilson, 19 and Kate Wilson, 17. They were all said to have been born in Shropshire. I'm presuming William was a widower as no wife appears to be listed on the census.
Also listed in the household was George Bayley aged 1. I'm presuming he was the son of William Wilson's daughter, Jane, who married George Bayley, a draper, at Whitchurch in 1838. I cannot find Jane or George on the 1841 census.
On FreeBMD I found a death in the Dec qtr of 1841 for George Bayley in the district of Wem. In 1848 Jane married George Harris, a farmer of Wem.
Hope someone can help.
Jayson
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This could be the death for William hence why you cannot find him in 1851
WILSON, WILLIAM 56
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in WEM AND WHITECHURCH Volume 18 Page 171
NB. The age of 56 is a little high compared with the given age of 42 on the 1841 census but you would have to see the death certificate to be sure. Wem is the correct Registration District for where they were living in 1841
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This burial was 9th October 1847 abode Alkington
Keyboard86
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Thanks very much, davidft
This certainly looks like it could be the William Wilson I'm looking for. I'm not too worried about the age discrepancy because censuses do sometimes give contradictory evidence.
Jayson ;)
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Many thanks Keyboard86
How did you get the exact date?
Jayson
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Looking at the baptisms of the children on familysearch it looks like the mother's name was Catherine. There is also a baptism of a William Wilson in Whitchurch in 1791 which may be this William
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1851
Alkington Hall
Martha Wilson 1802 widow farmer 200 acres
Martha Wilson 1823 step daughter 1823
Catherine Wilson step daughter 1827
Barbara Wilson 1843 daughter
Thomas Wilson 1819 step son Farm bailiff.
Looks like William remarried and had another daughter before passing away
Lee
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Also listed in the household was George Bayley aged 1. I'm presuming he was the son of William Wilson's daughter, Jane, who married George Bayley, a draper, at Whitchurch in 1838.
That seems right - birth D 1839 Wem and Whitchurch
George Bayley - mothers maiden name Wilson
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Thanks so much everyone for all the information.
So William's first wife was Catherine? Is there a baptism date listed for Jane Wilson, she would be my great grandmother x3. I don't how old she is because her marriage certificates only say "full age".
Jay
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Marriage bonds
William Wilson date of birth 1793 to Martha Broster widow aged 40 . 31st jan 1843
Grooms occupation .farmer
Residence Alkington
This must be the correct William and Martha the widow from 1851 census.
Only problem it says groom is a batchelor..
Lee
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On FreeBMD I found a death in the Dec qtr of 1841 for George Bayley in the district of Wem.
GRO Online shows George as being aged 27 at the time of his death.
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I suppose the information on the marriage bond could be mistake as mistakes are sometimes made. Every other particular seems to fit perfectly with what we know already.
Thanks Lee, and to avm228
Jay ;)
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Thanks so much everyone for all the information.
So William's first wife was Catherine? Is there a baptism date listed for Jane Wilson, she would be my great grandmother x3. I don't how old she is because her marriage certificates only say "full age".
Jay
If I have the correct family in 1861 then this is Jane's baptism in 1815 in Cheshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH3N-HN5
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1861 Census
NAME: Jane Harris BIRTH: 1815 - Easton, Cheshire, England
SPOUSE: George Harris BIRTH: 1825 - Wem, Shropshire, England
RESIDENCE: 1861 - Wem, Wem, Shropshire, England
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William Wilson ofAlkington hall death duties and will etc,were all read in 1848 so the death in december qtr 1847 seems correct.
Both Martha and Jane were baptized 13 feb 1823 .
Lee
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Great detective work, davidft
That fits because I have Jane with her second husband, George Harris, living at Wem in 1861 and her place of birth is given as Easton, Cheshire.
Jay :D
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Where would I get William Wilson's will from?
Jay
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Marriage bonds
William Wilson date of birth 1793 to Martha Broster widow aged 40 . 31st jan 1843
Grooms occupation .farmer
Residence Alkington
This must be the correct William and Martha the widow from 1851 census.
Only problem it says groom is a batchelor..
Lee
The marriage seems correct, Martha Hayes m George Broster 1819 Cheshire.
Hayes is Barbara Wilson Mmn
Cas
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William's first marriage
William Wilson of Whitchurch married Catherine Pickering of this parish (Eastham) by licence at Eastham, Cheshire on 16 January 1815. Witnesses were James Wilson (? a relation) and Mary Goulborn (? on surname)
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1841 census
George Bayley 1816 i cant make out occupation but someone will..
Jane Bayley 1816
John Bayley 1838
William Street St Oswald Chester.
John Bayley b1838 mothers maiden name Wilson sept qtr Wem and Whitchurch.
Lee
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1841 census
George Bayley 1816 i cant make out occupation but someone will..
Jane Bayley 1816
John Bayley 1838
William Street St Oswald Chester.
John Bayley b1838 mothers maiden name Wilson sept qtr Wem and Whitchurch.
Lee
His occ. looks like Inspector Police
Cas
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If you are a member of Ancestry there is a tree on there that has several documents that relate to William including his marriage, burial and will. they also have a copy of a marriage licence dated 1815.
If you are not a member of ancestry then some public libraries have a subscription and you may be able to view it there (there are apparently restrictions on what you can see on the library version)
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Hello
William Wilsons executioner of will was James Wilson of Liverpool.
Looking at the 1851 census there is a James Wilson in Liverpool b1793 at Whitchurch.
I think this is the same James that witnessed Williams marriage..Baptism for James Wilson 28 july 1794 Whitchurch parents Thomas And Mary same as Williams.Sister Anne baptised same day.
Lee
I don't know how you would go about getting the will found info on findmypast .
Sure someone on here will know how to go about it.
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Nat Archives
William Wilson
Death year 1848
Residence ALKINGTON HALL WHITCHURCH, SHROPSHIRE
Court PCC And Country Courts
Record set Index to Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
National Archives reference IR27/287
Category Wills & probate
William Wilson
Will year 1848
Parish Alkington, Shropshire
Series description Registered wills and original wills, administrations and inventories, 1494-1860, and, act books, 1532-1638 for Diocese of Lichfield Episcopal Consistory Court
Piece description Calendar of wills and admons.
Piece year range 1821-1860
Record set Staffordshire, Dioceses of Lichfield and Coventry wills and probate 1521-1860
Subcategory Wills & probate
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From the Eddowes journal and advertiser Shropshire oct 20th 1847 deaths
Lately,at Alkington,in this county William Wilson farmer universally respected.
Lee
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Thank you everyone who has helped me with this. I'm ever so grateful to you all. I've learned so much in a sort space of time.
Lee, you mentioned the baptism of James Wilson in 1794. Does the record say what his father's occupation was?
Jay
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Hello
Unfortunately not,but James in Liverpool is most probably Williams brother.
James is a master butcher and has an apprentice John Wilson nephew born 1830 Whitchurch.
John was baptised 12th March 1830 parents William and Catherine.
I think i have the marriage of Williams Parents
Thomas Wilson to a Mary Boulton 16th sept 1777 Whitchurch.
Lee
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Thank you very much, Lee :)
Jay
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Will of William Wilson written 9 September 1847 (the one on ancestry)
brother James to be executor and requests that he James keep farming the land for the benefit of
William' wife and children. Wife and children to share and share alike.
No other names are mentioned, witness Catherine Dawson and William Davis
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Thank you for the details from William's will, amondg
Jay
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Just adding this for extra information about the Wilsons (Mr Wilson, a respectable farmer), and cows.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jfq/
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Thank you for the snippet of information, chempat ;)
Jay