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Title: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Monday 23 January 17 00:34 GMT (UK)
Hi, Hannah Jenkins borned all her children in the Landore Inn. Hannah was born in 1810 and died 1855. She married George Truscott. Her father was James Jenkins.Edward was one of the sons there maybe a possibility   this Edward or another a relation also named Edward.. was the person who  bought the the Foesyrefail works and opened it under it's new name Clayton .In 1885 Mr John Williams came from Abertillery to succsesfully manage [Clayton Works].  I am trying to find Hannah's mother whom I believe could possibly be named Williams[ann?] There is alsoSamuel Williams of Foesyrefail who had opened the Dulais Tinplate works about the same time.I have been to many different sites to try to find the mother of Hannah born in 1810 in Llangafelach. No one can actually find her for clear confermation as to wether she was Hannah Jenkins Truscott mother as yet. Could you see if you could look up this mother of Hannah for me please? Hannah's middle name is Sophia. She borned 11 children over a short time. I have spent money and done a great deal of research over four years, and get get any further. Please help if possible, many thanks Diane.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 23 January 17 09:46 GMT (UK)
Hi
Is this the family in 1851 H0107/ 2465 f282 p20

George Truscott   44 bn St Stphens, Cornwall
Rest of family born Llangafelach
Hannah Truscott   33
Amelia Jenkins Truscott   16
George Jenkins Truscott   14
James Fredric Jenkins Truscott   12
John Jenkins Truscott   10
Catherine Jenkins Truscott   8
Hannah Jenkins Truscott   6
Charles Jenkins Truscott   2

No one can actually find her for clear confermation as to wether she was Hannah Jenkins Truscott mother as yet.

This birth certificate would confirm who Hannah Jenkins Truscotts mother is though the GRO index does give maiden name as Jenkins

HANNAH  SOPHIAH JENKINS  TRUSCOTT,   mmnJENKINS     
1845  June Quarter
SWANSEA UNION  Volume 26  Page 496
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Monday 23 January 17 11:16 GMT (UK)
Hannah Truscott, wife of George Truscott, applied for Letters of Administration for her father John Jenkins's estate in 1851. She explained that her only brother (a batchelor not named) was in America when John Jenkins died intestate in 1845. The brother had since died in America, hence the delay in application.

This is on the National Library of Wales online Wills section.

https://www.llgc.org.uk/discover/nlw-resources/wills/ (https://www.llgc.org.uk/discover/nlw-resources/wills/)
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 00:26 GMT (UK)
Hi
Is this the family in 1851 H0107/ 2465 f282 p20

George Truscott   44 bn St Stphens, Cornwall
Rest of family born Llangafelach
Hannah Truscott   33
Amelia Jenkins Truscott   16
George Jenkins Truscott   14
James Fredric Jenkins Truscott   12
John Jenkins Truscott   10
Catherine Jenkins Truscott   8
Hannah Jenkins Truscott   6
Charles Jenkins Truscott   2

No one can actually find her for clear confermation as to wether she was Hannah Jenkins Truscott mother as yet.

This birth certificate would confirm who Hannah Jenkins Truscotts mother is though the GRO index does give maiden name as Jenkins

HANNAH  SOPHIAH JENKINS  TRUSCOTT,   mmnJENKINS     
1845  June Quarter
SWANSEA UNION  Volume 26  Page 496
Thank you Rosie for your quick reply. Yes these are definately the family, best wishes Diane.ps Just hd a thought..Hannah [name goes through 3 centuries, mother 1810-1855her daughter and grand daughter so I have heard!thank you again.very appreciative.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 00:31 GMT (UK)
Hannah Truscott, wife of George Truscott, applied for Letters of Administration for her father John Jenkins's estate in 1851. She explained that her only brother (a batchelor not named) was in America when John Jenkins died intestate in 1845. The brother had since died in America, hence the delay in application.

This is on the National Library of Wales online Wills section.

https://www.llgc.org.uk/discover/nlw-resources/wills/ (https://www.llgc.org.uk/discover/nlw-resources/wills/)
Yes thanking you very much..Hannah did have a brother in America with the same story that you presented to me. There must have been a mix up on the trail regarding I was given to believe that her fathers name was James for a very long time!Now only to find that her fathers name  was actually John! I will look into all these helpful info from you both. many thanks from Diane.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 06:14 GMT (UK)
As you were Diane. His name was James Jenkins not John. My mistake.

The General Register Office index shows a death for a James Jenkins in 1845 S Quarter in Swansea Union Volume 26 Page 310 aged 75.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 06:25 GMT (UK)
As you were Diane. His name was James Jenkins not John. My mistake.
ok no probs   however I think that it was said somewhere along the line 4 yrs ago that his brother or some close relation was John...many thanks to you regards Diane
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 06:30 GMT (UK)
Our messages crossed. I edited the last one to show his death on the GRO index.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 06:38 GMT (UK)
As you were Diane. His name was James Jenkins not John. My mistake.
ok no probs   however I think that it was said somewhere along the line 4 yrs ago that his brother or some close relation was John...many thanks to you regards Diane
Also hannah had a son named john too regards diane.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 06:47 GMT (UK)
Our messages crossed. I edited the last one to show his death on the GRO index.
I see many thanks Hinso.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 09:54 GMT (UK)
The Letters of Administration refer to James Jenkins as being late of Morriston. He was a widower.

In the 1841 census there is a James Jenkin(s) aged 71 in Morriston (a Sayer?) with a wife named Ann, also 71.

The GRO index shows the death of an Ann Jenkins in Swansea Union in March Q 1845 aged 75.
(Volume 26  Page 402.

Also in the same or adjacent location, there is what looks like Ann Truscott aged 7 and a number of other people, icluding several Jenkin(s).
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Have checked the Glam Bapt index, cannot locate a bapt for Hannah Jenkin/Jenkins around 1810 in area. Possibly family maybe non conformist.

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 10:53 GMT (UK)
The Llangyfelach baptism records available on familysearch.org/findmypast start in 1813.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 11:01 GMT (UK)
The Llangyfelach baptism records available on familysearch.org/findmypast start in 1813.

Searched THE GLAMORGAN BAPTISM INDEX 1549-1837

Also have Marriages but many John or James Jenkin/Jenkins.

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 11:16 GMT (UK)
Familysearch.org shows a marriage for James Jenkin and Ann Wiliams in Llangyfelach in 1794 - taken from Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 11:44 GMT (UK)
Yes, the Glam marriages does include this marriage if of interest to poster.

Married 1st Feb 1794. Both of Parish. Included are (PWB) Which means Personal details in register, Witness details in register, married by Banns.

Glamorgan Archives hold originals.

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 11:55 GMT (UK)
Familysearch.org shows a marriage for James Jenkin and Ann Wiliams in Llangyfelach in 1794 - taken from Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
Thank you so very much, I have been on comp all day re; them your info is so helpful Hinso you will never believe how relieved I feel now! regards from Diane across the waves..
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Diane Heddon on Tuesday 24 January 17 11:57 GMT (UK)
Yes, the Glam marriages does include this marriage if of interest to poster.

Married 1st Feb 1794. Both of Parish. Included are (PWB) Which means Personal details in register, Witness details in register, married by Banns.

Glamorgan Archives hold originals.

CasExtreme thanks Cas for you continued help along with Hinso..I am now on their trail correctly surely! best wishes Diane in oz.I was born n bred in Swansea.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 12:11 GMT (UK)
Hopefully, but without a bapt no link

Always a welcome in the hillside  :)

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hopefully, but without a bapt no link

Llangyfelach baptisms would be useful to me as well. My 3xg grandfather was supposedly born in the parish around 1800. Solid brick wall at the moment.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 12:31 GMT (UK)
Not wanting to hijack posters thread, but if you give me details Hinso, will take a look.

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 12:42 GMT (UK)
Not wanting to hijack posters thread, but if you give me details Hinso, will take a look.

Cas

Rejoices in the name of James Thomas. He lived out most of his life over the mountain in Betws parish. I have his marriage but the format used in the register did not record father's name.
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 12:49 GMT (UK)
I am sure you know how diffcult Welsh history can be, so how about a dob, and is it about 1800, Langyfelach
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 24 January 17 13:01 GMT (UK)
Between 1798 and 1805 the only James Thomas located near area are Bapt Swansea.

Cas
Title: Re: Hannah Jenkins mother
Post by: Hinso on Tuesday 24 January 17 13:17 GMT (UK)
Diolch Cas

Re James Thomas. He appears in three censuses, the ages all vary, and so does his place of birth - Cydweli (Kidwelly) is another alternative. He was certainly a nonconformist later in the 1800s so that is another issue.

Thanks again for looking.