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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Westee on Wednesday 01 February 17 21:16 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone
Would anyone have information on a Robert Miller born 1763, presumably in Durham?
His son Henry Marsden Miller b. 1798/99 Newcastle/Durham; who became a Freedman of the City of London in 1855; gave his father's occupation as "Hairdresser".
Robert's death is recorded as 18th July 1829 in Darlington, Durham.
Any information at all would be really appreciated.
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The only Robert Miller I can find was baptised Gateshead 14 Nov 1762 father Robert
Emeltom
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Thank you. Yes, this is a real possibility as Henry Marsden Miller (his son) b. 1798/99 said he was born Gateshead or Newcastle.
I haven't been able to find a marriage for Robert. If you can help would be really appreciated.
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So far I can't see a marriage for Robert.
Are you sure that you have the correct death for Robert, only the Durham University Library Special Collections Catalogue has an entry for a Will of a Robert Miller who died 1829 in Darlington and they give his occupation as Clerk.
Emeltom
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Yes, you are right. I went to my local genealogy group today and found out that Robert Miller dod 1829 was a Reverend with the Wesleyans. It seems he made a Will in 1826. I would like to get that and read through it. I guess the Wesleyans would have been non-conformists at this date?
It may not be the right Robert Miller but the dates are perfect so would like to continue at least until I can cancel it out. I wonder if the Wesleyans had their own parish record books?
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You can read his will online on the North East Inheritance Database. This has the pre 1858 wills from Durham Diocese.
William
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Oh. Will try and upload it now.
Thanks so much.
Gail
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If I give you the Will's reference can you look it up? I found the website but didn't know quite how to upload it all.
DPRI/1/1829/M15 2 Nov. 1829
DPRI/1/1829/M15/1-2 21 Nov. 1826 will
There is another reference which says Registered copy: DPRI/2/40 p373-375
Which one of those I am not too sure.
Many thanks, Gail
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Simply click on the blue underlined reference number and a new window opens with the will (it is a link to the wills on Familysearch). Click on the will rather than the registered copy as this gives the original with signatures etc.
William
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Thanks so much.
Will start again tomorrow morning.
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Hi,
Darlington St Cuthbert has this baptism from the BT
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67K9-4CR?i=292&wc=9K5S-MNP%3A13618101%2C20024301%2C20024302&cc=1309819
Henry Marsdon BELL 6th son of Robert BELL Barber bn Dec24th 1797 chr Jan 11th by his wife Mary BELL dau of Henry BELL of Manchester.
The milldle name and father's occupation are too much of a coincidence :)
Robert BELL Died 1801 Darlington aged 63. There does not seem to be a will.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67K9-3ZB?mode=g&i=400&wc=9K5S-MNP%3A13618101%2C20024301%2C20024302&cc=1309819
Perhaps Mary later married a Mr MILLER?
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Excellent. A real possibility.
Checking all the scenarios now.
Thank you.
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I have found two more children to Robert and Mary. A William born 1796 and Sarah 1795.
Also Robert possibly had two brother which I have noted; a Cuthbert Bell and a Thomas Bell both of Darlington.
I have not yet been able to find the marriage of Robert Bell and Mary. I have printed out the death notice for Robert of 1801 which would indicate he was born approx. 1738.
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Have managed to find some Wills which is amazing. However, still looking for the Robert Miller will of 1826. He died in 1829.
Could take some time.
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Robert Miller who died in 1829 was the Rev. Robert Miller. I have checked his marriage details and children and this is not my ancestor.
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Thank you everyone who has helped thus far.
Robert Bell died in 1801 in Darlington aged 63 yrs.
His wife Mary had several young children. This was Robert's second marriage. We think his first wife died and he married again to Mary Bell (that was her maiden name and was from Manchester).
Mary as a widow in 1801 had several young children. Henry Marsden Bell was just 3 yrs old.
How can I find out what happened to Mary after her husband Robert Bell's death in 1801? I am wondering whether she gave the children up to foster care or did she herself have to go into care with the children? I can't see how she could survive without getting help of some sort maybe even went into the workhouse for a short time. What would be her choices in 1801 with several young children to care for and no husband?
I cannot find another marriage for her as yet.
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Mary Bell b. 1753 and died 27 Dec. 1831 Barnard Castle, Durham.
Am trying to locate the death registration for Mary Bell b. 1753 and died 27 Dec. 1831, Barnard Castle, Durham, England. She was 78 years old. As there are no death certificates before 1837, I am trying to establish as much information on the transcript as possible. I have tried to look on ancestry but seem to be blocked after 1815.
Many thanks.
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kfc/
That is a link to the burial register image from the Bishops Transcripts on Family Search.
Unfortunately her name date of burial (not date of death, but burial would have taken place within a day or so) and age at death is about all you are going to get.
Boo
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Not the same Robert Miller BUT...
My 6x G-Grandfather was Robert Miller born in Co. Durham c.1735-1740.
He had a Daughter Sarah Miller who was born in Gateshead, Co. Durham in 1778.
Any links?
I haven't found Mother or siblings of Sarah yet...