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Title: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 05 February 17 10:12 GMT (UK)
Hello All

I'm trying to trace my grandfather's brothers, James Crawford Green (b. 1910 - registered Lochgelly, Fife) and Thomas Crawford Green (b.1911 - registered Kinglassie, Fife). They left on the 'Baradine' , bound for Sydney, in 1927. They never came back and I think letters between them stopped after a few short years. I would love to know what happened to them once they arrived in Oz

Could someone please suggest how I might start going about this - first steps, and all that?  :)

Many thanks

Alex


Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 05 February 17 10:29 GMT (UK)
Possibly your line?
NSW marriage:
1930 #16599 James C. GREEN and Agnes M. PERROTT; Taree
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/172267885
The marriage took place at her parents' residence on Saturday night, of Miss Agnes Margaret ("Tibby"), daughter of Mr and Mrs. S. Perrott, of Kendall, and Mr.James Crawford Green, of Coopernook. Rev. R. W. Wannan of Port Macquarie performed the ceremony
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 05 February 17 10:30 GMT (UK)
Thomas Crawford GREEN enlisted in the army for ww2 and his service number was N456050
Date of birth 4 Apr 1911 at CLUNY BRIDGE, SCOTLAND.
The date of enlistment 8 Sep 1941 and at that time he was living at Kendall, NSW

His Next of kin is listed as James GREEN
Discharged 20 April 1948.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?ServiceId=A&VeteranId=375512
Sue
 
 
 
 
   
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 05 February 17 10:38 GMT (UK)
Some articles for James Crawford GREEN
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/172267885
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167107164 (states he is a mail contractor)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98945251
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 05 February 17 10:45 GMT (UK)
http://www.ryersonindex.com
GREEN, James Crawford, late of Kendall; probate notice; Camden Haven Courier 23Apr1997 and 3Dec1997
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 05 February 17 10:50 GMT (UK)
Photo of headstone for James and wife: http://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=8242519#images

Jamjar
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 05 February 17 10:52 GMT (UK)
Wow! Thank you so much, cupoflife and sparrett - that is amazing!

I had no idea where to start and you have thrown up so much information - I knew so little

The newspaper articles make for interesting reading  :)

Best wishes

Alex

Jamjar - that is fantastic and is most surely him - thank you so much!
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 05 February 17 11:03 GMT (UK)
NSW birth:
1913 #36969 PERROTT, Agnes M. ; Father-Sydney A.; Mother Christina A. ; Taree
Sydney Albert Francis PERROTT and Christina Ann/Anne McLEOD
http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/individual.php?pid=I17301&ged=Gregory-Hudson.ged
Burial at Kendall General Cemetery
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 05 February 17 11:35 GMT (UK)
Alex, what are the parents' names of Thomas and James, please?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 05 February 17 12:31 GMT (UK)
Hello Jamjar

Their parents were John Green and Christina Crawford

Thanks for your interest - and thanks, cupoflife, for that additional link

Best wishes

Alex
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 05 February 17 20:59 GMT (UK)
Birth of the wife of James

PERROTT AGNES M
36969/1913
Parents Sydney A & Christina A
TAREE


Obituary of her father Sydney PERROTT who died which gives a good PERROTT family background
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/160437839

Sue
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 05 February 17 22:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your help, Sue

It's fascinating to have these glimpses of lives in the past - especially when they are of new-found family  :)

Best wishes

Alex
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 05 February 17 22:12 GMT (UK)
Thomas Crawford GREEN was cremated at Springvale Botanical Cemetery

30 September 1966

His ashes were scattered.

He had first shown on the Victorian Electoral roll in 1949, having been registered  in NSW until 1949.

I can type up his electoral roll details if of interest. Let me know.

Sue
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 05 February 17 22:44 GMT (UK)
Sue, if it's not too much trouble, that would be fantastic!!  ;D

Thanks ever so much for the information on Thomas - I wasn't getting very far with a search for him

Best wishes

Alex
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 06 February 17 01:17 GMT (UK)
Death registration:

23393/1966 Thomas Crawford Green

Father's name: John Green

Mother's name: Christina (Crawford)

Place of birth: Scotland

Place of death: Port Melbourne

Age: 55
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: sparrett on Monday 06 February 17 04:17 GMT (UK)
Electoral Rolls.
Thomas Crawford GREEN is first registered in Australia in 1933.
1933
Address Lorne, Kendall NSW. Labourer.
1934
Address. Kendall, NSW. Labourer
James Crawford GREEN, also a labourer, is at the same address.
1936
Details for both men as above.
Agnes Margaret GREEN, home duties,is at the same address.
1937.
As above for 1936.
1943
Thomas Crawford GREEN , 3 Knox Street, Coogee. Press operator.
1949 in Victoria.
At 189 Clarendon Street, South Melbourne. Storeman.
1954
At 36 Evans Street, Port Melbourne. Storeman.

I do not see any others of the surname listed with him.
Sue

 

Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Monday 06 February 17 07:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much, Sue and Jamjar, for taking the time to research and post - that is all so useful

I've been able to build up quite a detailed picture of both brothers in just 24 hours, thanks to your help. I really appreciate it  :)

Kindest regards

Alex
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: KeeleyGreen on Thursday 31 August 17 00:42 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm James Crawford Greens great grand daughter. I am interested to know more about your line of the family? Thanks
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Sunday 17 September 17 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi Keeley

I've replied to your post with a PM

Thanks for getting in touch

 :)
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: KeeleyGreen on Wednesday 20 September 17 13:21 BST (UK)
Hi Alex,

For some reason I can't reply to your private message. Can you message me you email address so we can talk further, I'm very interested to hear what you know about the Green boys and the pics you have

Thanks 😊
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: lancs-lassie on Wednesday 20 September 17 13:32 BST (UK)
I think you need to have made 3 posts before you can use the PM function.
Hope that helps
Lancs-Lassie
Title: Re: Finding Jim and Tom Green - 1927 onwards
Post by: AlexMcK on Wednesday 20 September 17 14:31 BST (UK)
Thanks lancs-lassie  ;)