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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Magiccat1978 on Sunday 19 February 17 22:29 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Edward Phillips Addison was a comedian born c1813 in Devonport, Devon, England according to Census entries. He was the father of actresses Fanny Addison and Carlotta Addison. The Addisons appeared to travel about a lot.
I'm am struggling to find a birth for him, I'm wondering if he wasn't born an ADDISON.
His Obituary says (Haddy) after his name ? See the attachment below.
I'm hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction.
Thanks Laura
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Hi Laura
Just looked on FreeBMD and there were Haddy's in Plymouth.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Just trying FreeREG
Giggsy
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He presumably died ca.1879 Plymouth but I cannot see a death entry in this name in the deaths index?
Annette
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Have now found his death entry in 1874 which, if he was then 66 would make a birth year circa 1808.
Annette
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Hi may be posting all that is already known :-
Edward Phillps Haddy burial Ford Park Cemetery Walled Grave Section E No: 19 Row 14 address 6, Queen Street, Plymouth, St Peter 18th April 1874 aged 65
Keyboard86
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Carlotta's obitury referred to her father working with Charles Kean. I can find a number of references to Mr Kean and a Mr Addison in the same company, but no first name. Kean also appeared alongside a Laura Kean, who died in the US in 1851 - no idea if she is linked
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Hi is he the Edwd Addison 62 occ Actor b Devonport with daughters in Brecknock Crescent, St Pancras in 1871?
Census ref RG10/236/16/26
Keyboard86
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Stoke Damerel baptism
1809 Mar 29, Edward Phillips, s/o Edward and Mary Ann HADDY, born Feb 24
Likely marriage of parents
Stoke Damerel
1807 Dec 31
Edward HADDY, otp, baker
Mary Ann PHILLIPS, otp, with consent of Alexander PHILLIPS, her father.
Both sign in presence of Alexander Phillips, Thomasin Haddy.
Ian C
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Hi again, for my own peace of mind who was the mother of all the children GRO Index suggests mmn Ingham, in 1851 Edward 40 Unmarried occ Comedian b Devonport is again in St Pancras HO107/1493/945/72
In 1851 children Francis/Frances 7 Charlotte 4 Claude 3 and a Catherine Fretson 3 are shown as Nurse Children to a Joseph Luckman 53 Census ref HO107/2062/363/14
Frances Pauline Addison marries a Henry Mader Pitt Dec qtr 1874 Preston, and is with her brother Claude A Addison aged 33 and family in 1881
Claude Alfred Addison married twice to Ina Marina Allen 3rd December 1870 St John Notting Hill and Annie Elizabeth Newton 8th January 1910 St Luke Battersea
Keyboard86
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Hi may be posting all that is already known :-
Edward Phillps Haddy burial Ford Park Cemetery Walled Grave Section E No: 19 Row 14 address 6, Queen Street, Plymouth, St Peter 18th April 1874 aged 65
Keyboard86
Thanks for this, it looks like a good match, Why would his death have been registered as Addison and his burial as Haddy though?, and i wonder where the Addison surname came from. Can't just be a stage I wouldn't have thought as his children were registered under Addison.
Hi is he the Edwd Addison 62 occ Actor b Devonport with daughters in Brecknock Crescent, St Pancras in 1871?
Census ref RG10/236/16/26
Keyboard86
Yes I believe this to be him and daughters Frances and Carlotta
Hi again, for my own peace of mind who was the mother of all the children GRO Index suggests mmn Ingham, in 1851 Edward 40 Unmarried occ Comedian b Devonport is again in St Pancras HO107/1493/945/72
Keyboard86
Carlotta appears to have been baptised on the 05 Nov 1864 in Bordesley, Warwickshire. Her mother is simply listed as Elizabeth.
Very curious about the Addison surname though, wonder why he used it instead of Haddy. I wonder if his Mother remarried and he changed it? It was obviously well known as all death notices that I can find for his show (Haddy) after his name
thanks for the help, I really appreciate it :)
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:) I cannot explain why Haddy became Addison I hope someone will provide a possible explanation, I can see in 1861 Edward aged 48 occ Comedian b Devonport is with son Claude A 13 b Warwickshire at 4, High Street, St Pancras
Census ref RG09/116/4/1
Where were his female children and "Wife" possibly Elizabeth nee Ingham?
Keyboard86
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Hi
in 1861 Frances and Carlotta are at 87, Sidwell Street, St David, Exeter, Devon, England as lodgers. Professions are shown as actress at theatre and assistant at theatre. The head of the household is James Mason a 49 year old Provision Dealer.
No sign of the Mother at all. I can't find her anywhere.
Thanks again
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:) I love looking at online trees which appear to be well researched some have the mother of the children as an Elizabeth Hoyle who dies from the GRO Index as Elizabeth Addison March qtr 1849 Birmingham aged 27?
Children I have checked on have mmn Ingham.
Note Claude Alfred and Frances Pauline were baptised 1864 and 1865 St Pancras, so would assume mother was still alive 1865?
Keyboard86
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An Edward Phillips Haddy married a Harriet Anny Fanny Scott Waring at St Nicholas Brighton on 22 Aug 1838.
She appears to have died on 4 Jul 1875 as Haddy, so perhaps she and Edward were still married and he never married Elizabeth the mother of the Addison children.
Has anyone found them in 1841.
Ian C
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Hi I can see in 1851 a Harriet Haddy 34 Married occ Actress b Brompton, Middlesex shown as lodger in Salisbury Street, Marylebone
Census ref HO107/1491/24/40
Keyboard86
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By 1861 Harriet is a landholder, married. address 1 Claremont Place, St Pancras. One servant listed with her. can;t see her on 1871 yet
When she dies her address is 1 Claremont place, Judd St. She says she's a widow. her will was proved by Frederick Wiedenbach Whichelo of Cottage of Content, Rodney Road, Loxfields, Walworth. Effects under £1500
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1871 there is a Fannie Haddy, comedienne b Norwich c1835, unmarried, staying with Frederick Whichelo (aged 54) and his family at the Gore Arms (I think) approach Road, Bethnal Green. She is described as "friend". Frederick is from Brighton
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John Thurlow Scott Waring's will is on ancestry - he died in 1845. My skills with legal writing aren;t great, but I can see it makes provision regarding his married daughter Harriet Fannie Annie, wife of Edward Phillips Haddy, and that he takes lengths to ensure any monies go to her hands and not that of her present or any future husband
(not that I am sure he had much money to leave - he was bankrupted in the 1820s)
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Hi all, just running through all replies, noted these births/deaths any thoughts?
Birth Edward Phillips Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 731 mmn SELF
Death Edward Phillips Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 519 on GRO Index shown as 3 years could this possibly be 3 months, 3 weeks?
OK this couple also had a Frank Haddy 1848 and more earlier children so looks to be the John/Fanny in 1851 census Bath.
EDIT Also a death for a Florence Clara Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 517 GRO Index aged 1
Birth Florence Clara Haddy Sept qtr 1850 Bath v 11 page 27 mmn FURNER
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Apologies for the long wait for replies, my little girl came down with chickenpox and I haven't had time to follow up all the leads you kind people have given me.
I have had a look and I can't find a good match for Edward Phillips Haddy or Addison in the 1841 census.
The marriage to Harriet Fanny Annie Scott-Waring looks right and I cant find another Edward Phillips Haddy in the right time frame so I think its probably right. Which leaves the question of the parentage of Frances, Carlotta and Claude. Given the combination of baptism and birth recordings it seems that their mothers name is most likely Elizabeth Ingham. I guess what I need to do now is to see what I can find out about her.
I wonder what happened to the relationship between Edward and Harriet F A Scott-Waring. I had a quick look into Harriets family and they seem to have been quite well known and respected, her grandfather Major John Scott or John Scott-Waring was a well known figure and MP who mixed with the upper classes and royalty. They don't seem like a family that would have accepted Edward fathering children with another woman :-\
In the 1851 Census Edward Phillips Addison shows as UNMARRIED. In the 1861 Census he shows as WIDOWED. But Harriet was clearly still alive given she died the year after he did.
All in all its a bit of a puzzle.
Hi all, just running through all replies, noted these births/deaths any thoughts?
Birth Edward Phillips Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 731 mmn SELF
Death Edward Phillips Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 519 on GRO Index shown as 3 years could this possibly be 3 months, 3 weeks?
OK this couple also had a Frank Haddy 1848 and more earlier children so looks to be the John/Fanny in 1851 census Bath.
EDIT Also a death for a Florence Clara Haddy March qtr 1852 Bath 5c 517 GRO Index aged 1
Birth Florence Clara Haddy Sept qtr 1850 Bath v 11 page 27 mmn FURNER
The only Haddy / Self marriage I can see is John Haddy to Fanny Self in Somerset on the 08 Feb 1832. The Brides Parish is shown as St James Bath. The 1851 census shows Johns birth place as Bath in 1809
The only Florence Haddy of the right age I can find in 1851 is living as a Nurse Child with the Jennings family at Richmond Place, Walcot, Bath, Somerset, England
The GRO shows her mmn as Furner. On doing a quick search there is a marriage in 1848 in Bath between William Haddy and Mary Ann Furner. The 1851 Census shows Williams year of birth as 1826.
Will have to do some more digging to see if there is any connection.
thanks for all your help I really appreciate it.
Laura :)
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Hello Laura,
Edward Phillips Addison was my GGGGrandfather and I went to the V and A archives in London a couple of years ago to view his scrapbooks. There was a bit of biography written by one of his famous actress daughters. He was born in Devonport to strict baptist parents and he ran away to go on the stage. All my notes are under the roof and am just giving you what i remember of the top of my head but i am happy to go to my research papers and give you some more details. I would recommend you visit the archives and scrapbooks yourself as it was amazing reading and really beautiful victorian books full of goodies. Are you closely related to Edward too?
With very best wishes Lucy
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Hi may be posting all that is already known :-
Edward Phillps Haddy burial Ford Park Cemetery Walled Grave Section E No: 19 Row 14 address 6, Queen Street, Plymouth, St Peter 18th April 1874 aged 65
Keyboard86
So just to identify/confirm if this is his baptism:-
Edward Phillips Haddy born 24th February 1809 baptism 29th March 1809 Father Edward Mother Mary Ann at Stoke Damerel
Apologies see this has been located ages ago!
Keyboard86
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Hi Everyone
I am also interested in this family. I am a beginner but have found it fascinating to find Carlotta in the family. I read that her mother died at Carlotta's birth. I think it was in the La Trobe magazine. La Trobeana
Journal of the C. J. La Trobe Society Inc.
Vol 15, No 2, July 2016
ISSN 1447‑4026
This has a whole section about Charles Albert and Carlotta.