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Title: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Wednesday 08 March 17 15:30 GMT (UK)
I have a query that will be like looking for a needle in a haystack but knowing Rootschat from old I have hopes that someone can help me.
I have ancestors from Ireland who moved to Liverpool. John Golding born about 1812 and his wife Esther. On the census in Liverpool they are down as being born in Ireland but it doesn't say where. They had two children Catherine and Thomas and on one of the census it says that Thomas was from County Mayo so I am assuming that the parents were as well, but I cant find a marriage and I cant find Esther.
I think they moved just before 1851.
Many thanks
Cecie
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 08 March 17 15:33 GMT (UK)
When were the children born?  Is it possible to get a birth for one of them to give you the name for Esther. 
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 08 March 17 15:36 GMT (UK)
Any idea who the 1 year old boarder in 1861 was - Thomas Rigby?

He could be a clue if he was related in some way.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Wednesday 08 March 17 15:44 GMT (UK)
The children were both born in Ireland according to the Liverpool census Catherine is just listed as being born in Ireland but Thomas is down as being born in County Mayo on one of the census lists.
I hadn't noticed anyone called Thomas Rigby, I will have to have a look.
Many thanks
Cecile
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Wednesday 08 March 17 16:03 GMT (UK)
Had a quick look at the census, he is only a young child isn't he? I'm afraid I don't know who he is.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Wednesday 08 March 17 16:36 GMT (UK)
I have just had a look at the 1881 census and Thomas is married and staying with him and his wife is a lady called Sarah Ryder and listed as 'aunt'. There is also a nephew called John Golding but I know this is Catherine's illegitimate son, so I don't think he is connected to Sarah Ryder.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: jacquelineve on Wednesday 08 March 17 19:08 GMT (UK)

 According to 1851 census Catherine 17 and Thomas 12 Indexed as Golden

Jackie
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Wednesday 08 March 17 19:19 GMT (UK)
Yes there are a few mis-spellings through different things some spelt as Goulding or Goulden but it is actually Golding.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 March 17 15:39 GMT (UK)
Sorry got the wrong name, I thought the 1 year old and the aunt had the same surname  :-[

The aunt is a good clue though - if we can find out whose sister she was or who she was married to.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Thursday 09 March 17 15:44 GMT (UK)
Yes I thought that. I remembered seeing the aunt on the census and then when it was mention about the young child I too immediately thought they were the same! So afraid we are back to square one.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 March 17 15:51 GMT (UK)
Can't give up yet - Sarah the aunt is 40 widowed born Liverpool so should in theory be possible to trace her back. 

She is half the age of Esther so they can't have been sisters.  It doesn't say wife's aunt but maybe it wouldn't differentiate anyway.  Thomas' wife came from Liverpool so Sarah could belong to her which wouldn't help us  :-\
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 March 17 15:55 GMT (UK)
Ah found a marriage Jun 1858 Liverpool

Two couples but two of the names are of interest

Henry Ryder
Sarah Rigby

Yes that is the right couple - marriage 14 Jun 1858 - now to see if it helps!
Title: Re: Whats her maiden name
Post by: cecile on Thursday 09 March 17 16:03 GMT (UK)
Oh that great!
Thanks very much
Cecile