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Title: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: carolsz on Monday 13 March 17 10:32 GMT (UK)
I am doing a family history album for my friend regarding the history of Susan Tavernier who married Charles Gotobed.
They married October 1857 (I think in Poplar, Tower Hamlets) That may be incorrect.
Charles Gotobed was born in Ely, Cambridgeshire in 1836 and I think he died in 1915, West Ham.

I have of info regarding their children and the connection to my friend.  Any info about Susan Tavernier would help.

Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 13 March 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to rootschat this looks like the marriage transcribed as Tarrnie

25/12/1857 All Staints Poplar Tower Hamlets Charles Gotobed {labourer }father William Gotobed (labourer )
Susan Tavernier both of full age father Isaac Tavernier (waterman )
Witnesses Adam Layton Harriet Cox

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 13 March 17 11:50 GMT (UK)
This could be them on the 1851 census as Tabner address Ships Lane Elly Cambridgeshire
Isac Tabner age 50 born Suffolk (waterman )
Charlotte Tabner age 48 born Mildenhall Suffolk
Robert 21, Harriet 20 Joseph 18,.Susan 17, Charles 14,Mary 13 all born Ely Cambridgeshire
Piece 1764 Folio 360 page 30

1841 same address
Charlota Tavenor age 35
Robert 12,Harriet 10, Joseph 8,Susan 7, Charles 6, Mary 3

Possible baptism for Susan Tabner 25 March 1834 Trinity Ely Cambridgeshire
Father Isaac Tabner mother Charlotte

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 13 March 17 12:01 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage but that was after some of the children born ?
6 December 1838 Parish of Ely Trinity Cambridgeshire
Isaac Tabner ..Charlotte Boon

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: carolsz on Tuesday 14 March 17 06:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you and yes, I have come across that strange spelling of Tavernier to Tabner..I'll have a look into those details......all exciting.
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: carolsz on Thursday 16 March 17 10:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that.  It seems to make sense.  These people are my friends GR GR GR grandparents.

We live in Brisbane, Australia...so can't just pop into the local BMD office...so all this information is so helpful.

Anymore information would be helpful....I've done quite a lot, so maybe I could help you as well.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage but that was after some of the children born ?
6 December 1838 Parish of Ely Trinity Cambridgeshire
Isaac Tabner ..Charlotte Boon

Rosie

Could one or both of them have been already married to other partners when early children born and only free to marry each other in 1838?
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 11:31 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage but that was after some of the children born ?
6 December 1838 Parish of Ely Trinity Cambridgeshire
Isaac Tabner ..Charlotte Boon

Rosie

Could one or both of them have been already married to other partners when early children born and only free to marry each other in 1838?

Yes did think on that  ;)
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 11:36 GMT (UK)
Family search has baptisms of Susan's siblings, some as Taverner on batch C01167-7
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 11:38 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage for an Isacc Tabner  on 26 Apr 1822 to Sarah Morley at Trinity Church, Ely, but it could be a different Isaac.
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 11:41 GMT (UK)
Not seeing them on the 1861 census but this looks like Charlotte on the 1871 one
Address Water Side Ely Cambridgeshire name transcribed as Sabner

Charlotte Tabner age 66 born Mildenhall ( formerly laundress )
Isaac Tabner age 7 grandson ( scholar )

1881 address Broad Street Ship Lane Ely Cambridgeshire

Charlotte Tabner age 76 widow (stocking knitter )

Possible death Charlotte Tabner age 89  1890  Ely Cambridgeshire

Possible death for Isaac Tabner age 76 1870 Ely Cambridgeshire

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 11:43 GMT (UK)
Maybe a relative of Isaac even possibly father
Isaac Tavener of Trinity Ely married Susan Fuller otp at St Benedict, Cambridge on 3 Jul 1792
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 11:46 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage but that was after some of the children born ?
6 December 1838 Parish of Ely Trinity Cambridgeshire
Isaac Tabner ..Charlotte Boon

Rosie

Could one or both of them have been already married to other partners when early children born
and only free to marry each other in 1838?

Just checked the marriage again for Isaac and Charlotte and he was married before ( widowed )
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 11:56 GMT (UK)
One of the witnesses on the marriage for Susan and Charles Gotobed was a Harriet Cox

Marriage for Harriet Tabner to a William Cox 1852 Ely Cambridgeshire would say this is her sister

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: Annette7 on Thursday 16 March 17 12:24 GMT (UK)
Isaac Tabner b.15/5/1797, bp.16/7/1797 Worlington, Suffolk, son of Robert and Ann Houghton.

Robert Tabner married Ann Houghton 30/3/1793 Worlington, Suffolk.

Annette
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 12:43 GMT (UK)
Isaac had a sister Susan and brother Joseph
Susan Tabner b 28 Nov 1805  bap  7 Feb 1806 - Worthington (sic)
Joseph Tabner b 9 Sep 1798 bap 25 Nov 1798  Worlington
parents of both Robert Tabner  and Ann Houghton Tabner 

Joseph is on 1851 census (widower) with children including a daughter Susan

Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 12:48 GMT (UK)
Isaac Tabner b.15/5/1797, bp.16/7/1797 Worlington, Suffolk, son of Robert and Ann Houghton.

Robert Tabner married Ann Houghton 30/3/1793 Worlington, Suffolk.

Annette

A few tree's on Ancestry with same parents  :)
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 12:51 GMT (UK)
Looks like Ann made it to 1861 census age 88 b Rougham, Suffolk, lodger with Watts family.

In 1851 she is living with daughter Susan and son in law Henry Carter

 Folio: 694  Piece: 1764 page: 5


Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 12:52 GMT (UK)
Marriage for this couple Robert Tabner Ann Houghton
30/3/1793 Worlington Suffolk England
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 12:54 GMT (UK)
Robert and Ann both on 1841 census with an assortment of family members. Robert is a waterman, not bic (Suffolk) living in Worlington.
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 12:57 GMT (UK)
Robert and Ann both on 1841 census with an assortment of family members. Robert is a waterman, not bic (Suffolk) living in Worlington.

Also with them is a George Tabner born 1826 Suffolk tree has him as son of Isaac

Death for Robert Tabner 1851 Mildenhall Suffolk
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 16 March 17 13:12 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage for an Isacc Tabner  on 26 Apr 1822 to Sarah Morley at Trinity Church, Ely, but it could be a different Isaac.

There is also a baptism for a Harriet Tavener 31/5/1824 Trinity Church Ely Cambridgeshire
Father Isaac mother Sarah

Burial for a Harriet Tabner 1829 Parish of Ely Trinity Cambridgeshire age 4

Possibility same person

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 14:43 GMT (UK)
Could be death for Sarah

 Sarah Tabner buried 6 Aug 1828 - Parish of Ely Trinity age 28

But Isaac didn't remarry until 10 years later ???
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 16 March 17 14:59 GMT (UK)
According to Familysearch Charlotte Boon was single when she married.
I think Charlotte may have had a sister Harriet. There's a Harriet Boon who married Richard Fenn in Ely in 1837. in 1851 Harriet is widowed, she is also born in Mildenhall.
Title: Re: Charles Gotobed married Susan Tavernier
Post by: carolsz on Monday 24 April 17 13:11 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your information.  Most of it confirms what I found......I also believe that Sarah Morley was Isaacs 1st wife and she would be the legitimate gr gr gr grandmother of my friend along with her 5 children.

Susan who was born March 1834?? is my friends gr gr grandmother& married to Charles Gotobed.

Many thanks for your time.....a lot of work and a lot of interesting fun.  I might post more queries on her later.