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Title: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Monday 13 March 17 21:55 GMT (UK)
Hi There,
Trying to find the missing years of my late father Spencer Gerald Workman who was born in London in 1917 and went to Wanstead High School in East London Essex. Apparently there are no records of this school anymore that my half sister has tried to locate. His Mother split from her husband Benjamin Lester Workman who apparently wasn't the father of Spencer. Trying to find out what he did
in his early years prior to the age of thirty. Know he later married in England before he left for Australia in his mid 30's. He did run a Scrap Metal business after WW2 in London. Ann
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald WORKMAN
Post by: spades on Tuesday 14 March 17 00:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Ann,

You had posted this at the end of your PERRIN topic on the New Zealand boards although it refers to a completely different individual.

I have split off your post and created this new topic for you.

Did Spencer Gerald WORKMAN have a New Zealand connection, or should I move this topic to the Australia board, perhaps?

Spades

 
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 14 March 17 00:27 GMT (UK)
From freebmd

Births March qtr 1917 
Spencer G Workman mothers maiden name    Baker  West Ham    4a   556

Marriages

Marriages December qtr 1916   
Benjamin L Workman/Frances V Baker  West Ham    4a   586

He was registered as Benjamin's son from the info above

Have you looked for him on the 1939 register

He married in 1946 to Rose Pickard in Willesden Middlesex


Benjamin Lester Workman was born 1869 and died 1958 in Essex
Frances Violet Workman born 1890 died 1936 Stepney
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 14 March 17 00:41 GMT (UK)
New Zealand "footprints"..........

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Workman-1251

Death:

1969/40765   Workman   Spencer Gerald   52Y

Cemetery records:
Last name   WORKMAN
First name   SPENCER GERALD
Age   52 Years
Deceased date   31/07/1969
Service provided   Cremation
Cremation date   01/08/1969
Cemetery   Crematorium
Record number   31213

Photograph of headstone:

http://wellington.govt.nz/services/community-and-culture/cemeteries/cemeteries-search/details?id=43538&serviceType=Burial&previousPage=%2fservices%2fcommunity-and-culture%2fcemeteries%2fcemeteries-search%2fresults%3fserviceType%3dAll%26firstNames%3dspencer%26lastName%3dworkman%26fromDate%3d01%252f01%252f1840%26toDate%3d14%252f03%252f2017%26cemetery%3dAll


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 14 March 17 00:42 GMT (UK)
There is a probate entry for Frances but not for Benjamin

Frances Violet Workman wife of Benjamin Lester Workman died 10.4.1936 at the London Hospital Whitechapel.
Administration granted to Benjamin Lester Workman - effects £245 14 shillings 1 penny

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald WORKMAN
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 14 March 17 00:54 GMT (UK)


Did Spencer Gerald WORKMAN have a New Zealand connection, or should I move this topic to the Australia board, perhaps?

Spades

He doesn't appear on NZ electoral rolls :
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 14 March 17 02:57 GMT (UK)
"Footprints" in Australia......

For other items, search here:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/

An example:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18399276?searchTerm=%22spencer%20gerald%20workman%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=spencer+gerald+workman|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom|||dateTo|||sortby

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 14 March 17 04:01 GMT (UK)
No idea what the information will contain, someone will need to have a nosey to see.   There is a snippet in "The Truth" newspaper for a Gerald Workman, on the 8 October 1963, page 18.  Might not be the same man, but if he was known by his middle name.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Tuesday 21 March 17 00:57 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,
Many thanks for the information on Spencer Gerald Workman his parents. I couldn't have found it all without your wonderful help. Sorry I'm in transit at the moment on holidays and about to fly off again. Thankfully got my computer up and running again which is a delightful help as well. Thank you all again for your help all of you. AnnAus
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Tuesday 21 March 17 01:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Spades. Thank you for doing this for me I'm new to all this kind of stuff. Will be back in touch later in the month as presently in the middle of my holidays. Thank you AnnAus
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: spades on Tuesday 21 March 17 04:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Ann,

No problem. I just needed to confirm you knew the topic existed. 8) :)

Spades
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Sunday 09 April 17 02:47 BST (UK)
Hi Spades, Yes sorry for the delay Spencer Gerald did end up for the last 6 years of his life living in New Zealand in Wellington. He apparently worked as a hospital warden before settling down with a new partner Jane Treufelt and had two more daughters. Unsure if he did marry Jane but noted on his death certificate she is referred to as his partner with her previous married name on it. AnnAus
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Sunday 16 July 17 03:07 BST (UK)
Hi Spades, have you managed to find anything more about Spencer Gerald Workman who was born in England 1917 to Frances Violet Baker and Benjamin Lester Workman. There was a big age difference between the two and she was 8 mths pregnant at the time of marriage. After his Mother's death there is a big blank in Spencer's life till first married that was short lived then he travelled to Australia in the early 1950's and later to New Zealand. Thanks AnnAus
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: spades on Sunday 16 July 17 04:01 BST (UK)
Hi Ann,

I've just discovered a likely death notice for his partner Jane TREUFELDT, published  in the The New Zealand Herald on Sept. 7, 2016;

WORKMAN, Jane Johanna Maria (Jane) (nee Treufeldt). Born Valga, Estonia on 28 February 1922. Died peacefully aged 94 on Saturday 3 September 2016 surrounded by family and friends at Acacia Park Resthome, Tauranga. Loved mother and mother-in-law of...(names of living persons follow, so not quoted).
 http://notices.nzherald.co.nz/obituaries/nzherald-nz/obituary.aspx?pid=181305140

It would pay you to read the posted comments, as they are likely to lead to descendants. You can also post your own comments.

Spades
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: spades on Sunday 16 July 17 04:37 BST (UK)
By the way, I cannot see a marriage between Spencer Gerald WORKMAN and Jane TREUFELDT up to 1956.

Spades

Edit 17/7/17: spelling error corrected - Spades.
Title: Re: Spencer Gerald Workman
Post by: Ann Handyside on Monday 17 July 17 02:57 BST (UK)
Hi Spades, many thanks again this is a big help and adds more info to my connection. Regards Ann