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Title: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 18 March 17 15:41 GMT (UK)
Owen Mitchell married Margaret Jeamie Muriel Griffin in 1916 in Meriden, Warwickshire.

Margaret was the daughter of Edwin Perrins Griffin and Margaret Taylor Young Waddell. She was born in Tamworth, Staffordshire in 1878 and died in Birmingham on 16 August 1935, described as a widow. I have plenty of information about her.

However I have no information at all about Owen. There is no possible death for him between 1916 and 1935 in England, Scotland or Wales. There are two unlikely-looking deaths in Ireland (one aged 60 in 1917, and one aged 76 in 1929). Nothing in the CWGC web site or FindMyPast.

Has anyone come across Owen anywhere?
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: philipsearching on Saturday 18 March 17 15:58 GMT (UK)
Greetings.

If you have the marriage cert does it give his father's name and occupation?
Have you found Owen on a census?
If we can establish a birth year for Owen it would make the search a bit easier.

All the best
Philip
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 18 March 17 16:12 GMT (UK)
What about this probate record for a Owen Mitchell of the old Parsonage Hopwas Tamworth Staffordshire ..Died 11 January 1920 at Accra Gold Coast West Africa ..Probate Lichfield 6 July to Margaret Jennie Muriel Mitchell widow ...

Rosie
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 March 17 16:22 GMT (UK)
Great find Rosie  ;)

A brief mention of Owen here http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jql/ - a Comptroller of Customs in The Gold Coast. I have only looked at the beginning if the document where it mentions his obituary.
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: JJen on Saturday 18 March 17 16:27 GMT (UK)
Margaret's passenger record? -

Mrs Owen Mitchell
Age   36
Birth year   1880
Departure - 31.5.1916
Departure port   Liverpool
Destination port   Accra
Country   Ghana (Gold Coast)
Ship name   Abinsi

She was not accompanied by Owen.

Birth year is a bit out  ???

JJ
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 18 March 17 16:27 GMT (UK)
There is also this record of a Mrs Owen Mitchell age 36 departure date 31May 1916 Liverpool
Destination port Accra Ghana ship Abinsi

Possible arrival date 6 May 1920 Southampton England
Margaret Mitchell age 42 port of departure Durban South Africa
Ship Llanstephen Castle

Rosie
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: JJen on Saturday 18 March 17 16:31 GMT (UK)
Mr O Mitchell
Occupation   COL GOVT SERVICE
Departure 14.11.1917
Departure port   Liverpool
Destination port   Accra
Country   Ghana (Gold Coast)
Ship name   Mandingo

No age recorded

JJ
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: JJen on Saturday 18 March 17 16:32 GMT (UK)
Mr O Mitchell
Occupation   COL GOV SERVANT
Departure 19.11.1919
Departure port   Liverpool
Destination port   Accra
Country   Ghana (Gold Coast)
Ship name   Abinsi

JJ
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 18 March 17 16:33 GMT (UK)
Mr O Mitchell
Occupation   COL GOVT SERVICE
Departure 14.11.1917
Departure port   Liverpool
Destination port   Accra
Country   Ghana (Gold Coast)
Ship name   Mandingo

JJ

Nice one JJ ;)
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: JJen on Saturday 18 March 17 16:38 GMT (UK)
Mr O Mitchell
Occupation   COL GOVT SERVICE
Departure 14.11.1917
Departure port   Liverpool
Destination port   Accra
Country   Ghana (Gold Coast)
Ship name   Mandingo

JJ

Nice one JJ ;)

Thanks - you got us on the right track  :)
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 March 17 16:42 GMT (UK)
IT looks as though he was born abut 1878

20 July 1913
Mr O Mitchell 35 yrs abt 1878
Ship Karma

From Accra to Liverpool
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Brentor boy on Saturday 18 March 17 16:43 GMT (UK)
In  1901 an Owen Mitchell, aged   23, born Leitrim, Ireland, post office clerk, was living in Hackney as a boarder in the household headed  by Patrick Friday aged 57, born   Kerry, Ireland. Might this be your man?
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 March 17 16:46 GMT (UK)
I was thinking the same bb. :)
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 18 March 17 16:56 GMT (UK)
Wow, that's fantastic. Thank you to everyone. I had only just found the marriage and have not had time to get the marriage certificate. I'll have to mull over all of this for a while.  :) :)

 .... no less than three Owen Mitchells were born in the union of Mohill, Co Leitrim in 1877! Two of them died within a year, but I can't view the certificates to establish which they were. And two of them had fathers named William who were farmers, so even if I do get the marriage certificate it may not clinch Owen's identity  :(
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 18 March 17 18:30 GMT (UK)
Maybe someone will find an obituary for Owen Mitchell  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: philipsearching on Saturday 18 March 17 18:47 GMT (UK)
Maybe someone will find an obituary for Owen Mitchell  ;)

A brief mention of Owen here http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jql/ - a Comptroller of Customs in The Gold Coast. I have only looked at the beginning if the document where it mentions his obituary.

I found a text file of the 1920 Blue Book referred to by heywood - unfortunately, there is no obituary - they used the word only as header for a list of 12 people who had died (p5) with no information about them.

On p34 there is: "Of the seven deaths which occurred amongst European officials in the colony and its dependencies  in 1920, three were due to blackwater fever, two to paratyphoid fever, one to malaria and one to bronchitis." - presumably Owen was one of these seven.

So far, I haven't found an obituary for Owen.

Philip
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 18 March 17 18:49 GMT (UK)
Maybe someone will find an obituary for Owen Mitchell  ;)

A brief mention of Owen here http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jql/ - a Comptroller of Customs in The Gold Coast. I have only looked at the beginning if the document where it mentions his obituary.

I found a text file of the 1920 Blue Book referred to by heywood - unfortunately, there is no obituary - they used the word only as header for a list of 12 people who had died (p5) with no information about them.

On p34 there is: "Of the seven deaths which occurred amongst European officials in the colony and its dependencies  in 1920, three were due to blackwater fever, two to paratyphoid fever, one to malaria and one to bronchitis." - presumably Owen was one of these seven.

So far, I haven't found an obituary for Owen.

Philip

Yes did have a look at this and thought the same as you about the death
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 March 17 19:19 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find that so thanks.
I wonder if there would be something in the local paper where Margaret lived.
He might not be the Leitrim born one but he could fit.
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 March 17 19:43 GMT (UK)
1918's Blue Book shows O Mitchell appointed that year.

http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/africana/books2011-05/5530214/5530214_1918/5530214_1918_opt.pdf
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Macmitch on Thursday 11 May 17 13:51 BST (UK)
Owen Mitchell is my grandfather and did indeed die of black water fever in Accra, Gold Coast in 1920 aged 42. No obituary that I know of, only a photo of a small plaque erected by his wife and officers in Accra.  Interestingly his marriage certificate to Margaret Jeanie Muriel Griffin refers to him as a widower!? I have absolutely no idea what that is about. Would like to know the angle of interest from this chat line. Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Macmitch on Thursday 11 May 17 14:24 BST (UK)
Also, marriage certificate refers to father as a John Mitchell, farmer.
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 11 May 17 18:59 BST (UK)
If he is the one born in Leitrim, then, and his father is John, he is probably the one born on 30 August 1877 at Gorteenoran, Mohill, Co Leitrim, parents John Mitchell and Kate Gaffney.

If Margaret Jeanie Muriel Griffin was your grandmother, you and I are related (7th cousins once removed!)

Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: Macmitch on Friday 12 May 17 01:21 BST (UK)
Glad to 'meet' you - the first and only blood contact ever, however remote! I have very little information of previous generations with my father appearing never to have made contact with any family - suspect distance, only son and WW2 disruption. He carried the Waddell name within his given names and he has passed down some Waddell artifacts; seal and crest but that's where it all ends. Interested in what that tree looks like.
Regards
Title: Re: Looking for Owen Mitchell
Post by: john logan on Tuesday 19 June 18 10:55 BST (UK)
Owen Mitchell was my great uncle, a brother of my grandfather Daniel Mitchell. I have some iinformation on his career in London in the post office and his career from c. 1904, first in east Africa and from 1910 in west Africa (Accra) and his death there in 1920. I have recently been in contact with Owen's grandson.

John Logan, 19 June 2018, Limerick