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Title: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: bobtonks on Wednesday 22 March 17 12:32 GMT (UK)
John Humphreys was born in 1843 in Ludlow to Richard and Mary. In 1851 1861 he was living with his parents in Ludlow. Occ in 1961 was shoemaker.

In 1881 and 1891 he was living in Birmingham with his wife Mary and daughter Alice (1873). His occupation was now Police Constable. In 1901 still in Birmingham with his wife and retired.

Can anyone see him in 1871 and also his marriage to Mary.? Did they have more children (other than Alice). I couldn't find the deaths of  John or Mary.

Any help appreciated.

Bob
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 22 March 17 12:55 GMT (UK)
Hi

It looks like the marriage is at Birmingham Immanuel 14th May 1871
John 29 bach shoemaker 51 Holliday St s of Richard shoe maker
Mary Stanley 30 spinster 7 Stoke St  John labourer

wit Edward Humphreys and Phoodr? Sharp

a comment underneath settled with Sanders  ( a word I can't read).

Alice baptised St Thomas 16.3.1873  from St Vincent St policeman.

ps Alice looks like only child having checked new GRO index.

possible death John Humphreys Dec 1903 born 1842 6D 7. and he's buried at Key Hill Cemetery grave KH C300 burial 44802.
It looks like Mary died latter in Kings Norton Mar 1918 age 77 6D 109

She is on the 1911 census but hard to find-try Mary Humphreys Edgbaston age 69  born Gloucestershire

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 22 March 17 13:35 GMT (UK)

Mary before her marriage

1851 census Snowshill Gloucestershire
John Stanley  45 ag lab Snowshill Gloucestershire
Sophia 45 Sandford Berkshire
Joseph 15 ag lab Snowshill
Hannah 12
Mary 10
Sarah 8
Job 6
Mary mother widow 84 pauper ag lab Pendrock Worcestershire.

Can't see either of them 1871 census ,turns out Halliday street was were brother Edward was living in 1861 but can't see him in 1871 either.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: mauricej on Wednesday 22 March 17 13:47 GMT (UK)


This looks like John's death:

Deaths Dec 1903   Humphreys John, aged 61, Birmingham  6d 7

Quite a few possibles for Mary on FreeBMD

Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 22 March 17 13:54 GMT (UK)
1871  191 Tennant Street Birmingham
Thomas Goodman 38 bootmaker  Stourport
Maria wife 30 dressmaker Bristol
Annie E 2  Stourport
Thomas A 4mths
Annie M Painter 11 servant  Hook Norton
lodgers
Edward Humphries widower 44 bootmaker Ludlow
John 28 unmarried boot maker Ludlow

Edward buried Key hill 1902 KH  S 26.
So maybe why John buried there.

Ciderdrinker

Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: bobtonks on Wednesday 22 March 17 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thank you for looking and finding the info. I found Mary in 1911. Although I found John's death in 1903 and a link to Key Hill Cemetery I can't find the details you provided. Can you see a photo/picture of the grave?

Do you think that Mary was also buried at Key Hill?

Bob
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 23 March 17 07:20 GMT (UK)
ciderdrinker

Can you help again?
I found some info in JQRT for John Humphreys but couldn't find Edward !!! Where did you find his details?

Bob
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: ciderdrinker on Thursday 23 March 17 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hello
It is on there.
No photo but here's the transcription for Edward in a public grave S26

Cemetery   Key Hill
Area   Graves
Section   S
Number   26
Type   Public
Description   
Depth   Not Known
Interments   54
Memorial Inscription
“In loving memory of “ Henry W. Parker, died September 28 1901, aged 60 years; Thomas Moore, died December 24 1901, aged 50 years; John Groves, died January 9 1902, aged 63 years; Lance Corp. Fred Groves, died of Enteric Fever S. Africa December 31, aged 25 years; Henry Pickering, died May 9 1902, aged 62 years; Maria Sivitter, died July 28 1902, aged 42 years; Charles Morgan, died August 2 1902, aged 46 years; Elizabeth Dowler, died September 20 1902, aged 87 years; Edward Humphreys, died October 20 1902, aged 76 years; John J. Owens, died November 12 1902, aged 56 years; Harry Collett, died November 16 1902, aged 10 years; Charlotte Stevens, died December 3 1902, aged 63 years; Sarah Green, died November 20 1902, aged 75 years; John T. Moreton, died November 6 1902, aged 12 years; Ethel E. Hobley, died November 22 1902, “Safe in the arms of Jesus”, aged 7 years; Ann Palmer, “At rest.”, died January 17 1902, aged 69 years; Susannah Peart, “Only asleep”, died October 11 1902, aged 86 years.


You say you have John's which has a slightly different spelling Humphreys.

I've tried all the spellings I can think of but no luck for Mary .

Sorry
Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 23 March 17 18:30 GMT (UK)
Gosh, the inscription details are really good - the info I found for John was not as detailed as this; can you see similar detail for John.

I really appreciate your help.

Thanks

Bob
Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 24 March 17 11:13 GMT (UK)
Hello
I have found a record but it's not as nice as Edward's and it does seem quite huge.-240 graves.There's no gravestone and just years for each burial.

1902 COSTIN Sarah 44388,1902 RIDDING Albert James 44390,1902 PEARSON Martha 44408,1903 HACKETT John 44416,1903 WILSON Caroline 44417,1903 FOY Fanny Ruth 44422,1903 COOK John 44426,1903 YOUNG William 44433,1903 WINKLES Wallace 44465 ,1903 LENTON Mary 44472, 1903
GREEN Charles 44477,1903 BONNER Coulson 44478 ,1903 PERKINS Sarah 44481, 1903 HEATH Ellen 44490 ,1903 LEARY Elizabeth 44499, 1903  MASSEY Sarah 44504, 1903 OAKES Joseph 44521,1903 WHEELER Ebenezer  44522,1903 CLARK William 44526, 1903 SEARLE Mary Ann 44554,
1903 ANTHONY Henry 44559 ,1903 MARSHALL James 44570 ,1903 SATCHELL Emily Maud Mary 44579 ,1903 BUGBY William John 44589 ,1903 VAUGHAN Charles 44601 ,1903 PUGH Emma 44603,
1903  PICKFORD Elizabeth 44604 ,1903 TUCKEY John 44606 ,1903 BRATTEN Eliza 44615 ,1903 PUGH Beatrice Emma 44618 ,1903 SMITH William Dennis 44629 ,1903 ELY Charles Hoskins 44633 ,
1903 TENNANT John 44638 ,1903 KEATLEY Frederick 44639 ,1903 BRIDGWOOD George Woolley 44649 ,1903 PERKS John 44662 ,1903 STIRK Clara 44663 , 1903 LONG Thomas Jackson 44667,
1903 SHAW Ann 44669, 1903 PEACE Joseph Henry 44686 ,1903 FROST Henry Edward 44688 ,
1903 DUTNELL Annie Eliza 44691,1903 BROOKS George Benjamin 44697 ,1903 JONES Lloyd 44700,  1903 PUTSEY Lucy 44702 , 1903 THOMPSON Thomas 44705 , 1903 CASHMORE Maria 44720 ,1903 POTTS Edmund  44721,1903 HICKMAN Selina 44729,1903 JONES James John 44737,
1903 GOULDSTONE Kate Sophia 44740 ,1903 INMAN George 44742 ,1903 LEA Harry 44744,
1903 WORRALL Esther Ann 44750 ,1903 TRUEMAN William 44751,1903 MACKIE Clara 44759,1903
DOWNES Mary Ann 44761,1903  KITE George 44768 ,1903 SMITH Eliza 44771 ,1903 CROFT John George 44772,1903 WILMORE Sarah 44774 , 1903 NEWEY Ernest Harold 44775 ,1903 HOBBS Mary Ann 44777 ,1903 GROVES Elizabeth 44778 ,1903 BISBY Henry 44779 , 1903 CROWTHER Ada Mary
44781 ,1903 THOMPSON Florence 44782 ,1903 WHITEHOUSE Frank 44783 ,1903 EVANS Doris Lavinia 44784 ,1903 HARDY Thomas 44786,1903 BRADBURY William 44787 ,1903 CROFT Bernard Knowles 44788 ,1903 LLEWLLYN Emma Gertrude 44791 ,1903 COMLEY Florence  44792, 1903 BLOCKSIDGE Lucy Lilian 44794 ,1903  LATHAM Sydney 44795, 1903 STEVENS George 44796 ,
1903 HAWKINS Henry 44797 ,1903 COOMBS Florence 44798 ,1903 JONES Harry 44799 ,1903 REEVES George Henry 44800 ,1903 LEES John Henry 44801 , 1903 HUMPHREYS John 44802,1903 FRANKS Lydia 44804 ,1903 FULFORD Gladys 44805, 1903 DEVONPORT Charlotte
44807 , 1903 EVANS Gertrude 44809 ,1903 PAINE Annie Elizabeth 44810 , 1903 WHEELER Florence
44812 , 1903 HOWELL Susan 44814 , 1903 WHITEHOUSE Walter William 44815 , 1903 UCKINGHAM Beatrice Agnes 44817 , 1903 GRADY Sarah 44818 , 1903 COOK James 44819 ,  1903 WEBB Violet
44820 , 1903 TAPSCOTT Frank William  44824 , 1903 HARRIES Thomas Haydn Ivor 44827, 1903
BOAZMAN Harold Percival 44829 ,   1903 HOPKINS Alfred Edward 44831 ,  1903 DUGMORE Arthur
44832 , 1903 HAYNES Frederick  44836 ,1903 FISHER Harry Shelley 44839 , 1903  MILLER Archibald Henry 44842 , 1903 DOLPHIN Doris 44844 , 1903 TOMKINSON Ethel May 44846,   1903
LYONS Elizabeth Nora 44850 , 1903 CRUTCHLEY John Thomas 44855, 1903 DADGE Frederick 44861 , 1903 HULME Robert Henry 44865 , 1903 SMITH Frederick Hamer 44881 , 1903 SMITH Ada Florence 44883, 1903 AUSTIN James 44884 , 1903 LOCK Ernest Percival 44887 , 1903 MASCALL Frederick Gilbert 44889 ,1903 BAILEY Reginald John 44894 ,1903 BROTHWELL Edward Leslie 44896 ,1903  STATHAM Elsie May 44898 ,1904 DAWSON Annie Ada 44899  etc.

Sorry it's not better news
Ciderdrinker

Title: Re: John Humphreys 1843
Post by: bobtonks on Friday 24 March 17 12:26 GMT (UK)
Gosh - your right ... lots of it. Not quite as 'homely' as the local village cemetery.

Thanks  Bob