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I am researching my ansestors named Alexander herschell and his wife Mary Reilly . He was from Montrose Scotland . She was from linligoth
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I am researching my ansestors named Alexander herschell and his wife Mary Reilly . He was from Montrose Scotland . She was from linligoth
You haven't given any details of what information you want help with? Can you also tell us all info you already have so we don't waste time duplicating?
Please include their birthyears
When and where did they marry?
What census do you have them on?
Were they travellers as you have posted on the Travelling People board?
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I can't find a record of their marriage. Alexander was born in Montrose in 1846. Their children were born in different places all down the country until they got to Warrington, where my ancestor was born in 1890. 5 years later Mary died and I can't find anything else on Alexander.
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where my ancestor was born in 1890
Can you please include names of children so we can trace them
5 years later Mary died
Where? How old was she when she died?
Freebmd has a death in Warrington aged 33 but it was 1891 - not 1895 - please confirm
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until they got to Warrington, where my ancestor was born in 1890.
John George W Herchell was born 1889 - not 1890 - please see freebmd
and his wife Mary Reilly
Variation on John's birth reg - maiden name is Riley
Please list names, birthyears and birthplaces of all their children
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Found them in 1881 in Lythe Yorkshire - address "hut on railway". Suspect you already have this entry which would have been useful to include in your opening post
Alexander Herschell 33 contractors horsekeeper b Montrose
Mary 26 b Linlithgow
Margaret 9 b Aberdeen
Alexander 7 b Dundee
Mary 5 b Durham
Marjery 4 ditto
Isabella 1 b Yorkshire
RG11 Piece 4837 Folio 60 Page 21
On Mary & Margery's birth registrations - mmn is Riley - not Reilly. On Isabella's it's Rillie
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Do we have 2 Alexander Herschell's born 1846 and married to Mary??
See 1901 entry for Northumberland for Alexander Herschel b 1846
RG13 Piece 4793 Folio 118 Page 9
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Thanks..I will get back later and post all my info !
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Alexander Herschel was my great great grandfather, story was he was kicked out by his family when he was 21 became a shepherd and settled in Newcastle working for a wool company. That's what my granda said.
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Hi, was he born in Montrose ? Did he marry Mary Reilly ?
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No he married Mary Thompson
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He was Glasgow born I believe but his father Alexander who married a Jane baldy was from Perth,.
I don't think they were travellers more displaced with highland clearance and industrialisation forced off their lands
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The marriage on 8th June 1871 at Milton, Glasgow was Alexander Herschel to Mary Thomson,
A fair number of public trees on Anc ...try give this, and it does show (on the preview before paying for the certificate to be opened)that it is Mary Thomson he married on Scotlands People. Only way it can be proved beyond doubt is for the certificate to be opened.
I think there are three Alexander Herschels. One born in Perth, one born in Montrose, and, according to the latest post above, one born in Glasgow.
P.S. I have just seen that certificate, which is on some public trees. It is Alexander Herschel, aged 25, Drapers Assistant marrying Mary Thompson, 23, Dressmaker. Alex's parents: Alexander Herschell & Jane Baldy.
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From my reply #6
Do we have 2 Alexander Herschell's born 1846 and married to Mary??
See 1901 entry for Northumberland for Alexander Herschel b 1846
RG13 Piece 4793 Folio 118 Page 9
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Thanks for the help . Yes there were 2 Alexander Herschells born in 1846 . Mine is the one from Montrose who married Mary Reilly from Linligoth. I have found them living in various places all down the country till Warrrington. I have never found any record of their marriage though . If anyone can help with that ,I'd be grateful. Mary died in Warrington aged 33. If anyone can help with any other info , Also , what happened toAlexander after Mary died, I can't find him anywhere .
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I can trace my family of alexander herschels back to 1750 he married an Agnes stot in 1767 Brechin Angus. There were then four generations of Alexander Herschel. It's a family name. Each one of those alexanders had brothers, I wouldn't be surprised if they would call one of their sons Alexander after their father? Montrose is all around the same area logie pert is the first registered birth of an Alexander Herschel, probs cousins way back, all displaced from the area around the same time and having to fend for themselves moved south growing further apart?
If you go on wikitree you can see all the sons the original Alexander had, perhaps there is a link.
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burgess,
Alexander is still at Warrington in 1891...
1891 Census at Latchford, Warrington
Alexander Herschell, 45, Labourer, b Scotland
Maggie 14
Isabella 11
Annie 4 born Birkenhead
John 2 born Warrington.
Maggie & Isabella are on the 1881 census at Lythe, so Annie & John have been born since then.
I wondered if Mary died died just around the time of the 1891 census, possibly at Warrington.
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Yes Mary died when Annie was 5. John George died just after his Mother. The next record I can find of Annie is in a home for destitute women in Lancashire... Salford , when she was 17. This is a mystery why she would be there .