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Title: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Thursday 13 April 17 22:45 BST (UK)
Hi all,

James Tucker was my 3xGt Grandfather.  He was born c.1790 in Leighton, Somerset, according to census records.  I have him in the following censuses:

1861

Ford Toll Gate House, North Wraxall, Wiltshire

James Tucker, Head, 71, Toll Collector, Leighton [Salop?]
Sarah Tucker, Wife, 44, Dressmaker, Somerset Frome
Susanah Jane Tucker, Daughter, 11, Scholar, Stapleford
John Charles Tucker, Son, 5, Scholar, Wilts Melksham

RG9; Piece: 1280; Folio: 64; Page: 18


1851

Southington Street, Stapleford, Wiltshire

James Tucker, Head, 60, Toll Bar Keeper, Somerset Leighton
Sarah Tucker, Wife, 33, Somerset Frome
Susanna J Tucker, Daughter, 1, Wiltshire Stapleford

HO107; Piece: 1848; Folio: 137; Page: 30


James Tucker married Sarah Palmer on 7th November 1848 at Fugglestone St Peter, Wiltshire. Fathers' names John Tucker and Charles Palmer.

I need to find James Tucker on the 1841 census and any records from his life before he married Sarah.  Was he married before?  Did he have another family?  Who was his mother? (His son, John Charles is named after both fathers, so was daughter Susanna Jane the same?)  I have no knowledge of the geography of the south west of the country, which really doesn't help me! :)

Any help would be gratefully received, thank you!

Regards, Emma ;)
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 April 17 01:35 BST (UK)
Could this be him in 1841? James Tucker assistant turnkey, (jailer). Shepton Mallet is about 6km from Leighton.

Census of 1841
James Tucker
Residence Shepton Mallet House Of Correction Somerset, England
Gender    Male Aged 50-54
Aged   50
Birthplace Shepton Mallet   Somerset
Page Number    1 Registration Number    HO107 Piece/Folio    963/38


There is another marriage in 1813 to Elisabeth Skeete. 29 Nov 1813. Wilcot. Wiltshire.  Witness was John Tucker.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 14 April 17 07:38 BST (UK)

James Tucker married Sarah Palmer on 7th November 1848 at Fugglestone St Peter, Wiltshire. Fathers' names John Tucker and Charles Palmer.

I need to find James Tucker on the 1841 census and any records from his life before he married Sarah.  Was he married before? 

Does the marriage certificate state he was a bachelor/widower
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 April 17 07:44 BST (UK)

James Tucker married Sarah Palmer on 7th November 1848 at Fugglestone St Peter, Wiltshire. Fathers' names John Tucker and Charles Palmer.

I need to find James Tucker on the 1841 census and any records from his life before he married Sarah.  Was he married before? 



Does the marriage certificate state he was a bachelor/widower

Widower.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Friday 14 April 17 08:57 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for your replies!

James has always been a bit of an unknown as he falls at an awkward time historically. Why didn't they have detailed census records earlier?!  ::) More to the point, why did his parents not give him an obscure middle name?!

Thank you for your help so far. :)
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 April 17 09:11 BST (UK)
This may be his baptism, Cloford is about 1km from Leighton .

Name    James Tucker
Gender    Male
Christening Date    04 Nov 1787
Christening Place    Cloford, Somerset, England
Father's Name    John Tucker
Mother's Name    Rose
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 April 17 10:05 BST (UK)
If the baptism for James is correct these are proberly his siblings, all baptised at St Mary, Cloford, Somerset.

Betty Tucker 1 Oct 1780
Hannah Tucker 8 Feb 1784
Fanny Tucker 6 Jun 1790
Joseph Tucker 10 Jan 1796

I still have'nt found the marriage for John and Rose but I suspect it would be at the same church as the baptisms.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Friday 14 April 17 14:05 BST (UK)
Brilliant, thank you. Please keep things coming - really appreciate it!
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 15 April 17 02:51 BST (UK)
I can't find the marriage for John and Rose any where, perhaps if you post a request on the Somerset forum someone may have more access to the parish registers. There seems to be a gap in the marriage records for Cloford between 1754 and 1784 which is the period we need.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 15 April 17 07:24 BST (UK)
I can't find the marriage for John and Rose any where, perhaps if you post a request on the Somerset forum someone may have more access to the parish registers.

It is already posted on the Somerset forum  ;D
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 15 April 17 07:36 BST (UK)
I can't find the marriage for John and Rose any where, perhaps if you post a request on the Somerset forum someone may have more access to the parish registers.

It is already posted on the Somerset forum  ;D

I must need new specs, can't see it.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 15 April 17 07:40 BST (UK)
Update to 1841 census for James.

James TUCKER  1794  Gatekeeper
Elizabeth TUCKER  1789
New Lane, Kilmington, Somerset
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 15 April 17 07:57 BST (UK)
I can't find the marriage for John and Rose any where, perhaps if you post a request on the Somerset forum someone may have more access to the parish registers.

It is already posted on the Somerset forum  ;D

I must need new specs, can't see it.

It is on the header at the top of this page  :)
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Saturday 15 April 17 08:54 BST (UK)
Isn't that typical?!
Thank you for looking.
Will focus on James today and do some digging. :)
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Saturday 15 April 17 12:49 BST (UK)
Update to 1841 census for James.

James TUCKER  1794  Gatekeeper
Elizabeth TUCKER  1789
New Lane, Kilmington, Somerset

Would seem to be a better fit for occupation. :)
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 15 April 17 13:46 BST (UK)
I can't see a marriage for John & Rose either  ::)

Who were the witnesses to the marriage of James Tucker & Sarah Palmer
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: Emsworthy on Saturday 15 April 17 23:05 BST (UK)
Have found this burial record in Cloford:

Rosannah Tucker
Abode: Leighton
Burial: 2nd July 1824
Age: 68

Birth year around 1756.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 16 April 17 00:19 BST (UK)
Have found this burial record in Cloford:

Rosannah Tucker
Abode: Leighton
Burial: 2nd July 1824
Age: 68

Birth year around 1756.

Well done. Sounds about right, this makes it even more likely that John and Rose married at St. Mary. Cloford.
Title: Re: James Tucker - b.c. 1790 - Leighton
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 16 April 17 00:24 BST (UK)
I can't see a marriage for John & Rose either  ::)

Who were the witnesses to the marriage of James Tucker & Sarah Palmer

The witnesses were, William Holly and Frederic T W Wintle.