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Title: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: gratuation on Friday 14 April 17 21:47 BST (UK)

If anyone has access to Scotland's people would you mind looking up who the parents are of Thomas Whitecross born kerrimuir in 1826 .i think the mother's name was Jean Lindsey

Thanks in advance
G
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 21:53 BST (UK)
Access to SP is via purchase of credits - not by annual subscription
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: gratuation on Friday 14 April 17 21:58 BST (UK)
I see is there any other way to find out who his parents were

Thanks
G
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:03 BST (UK)
No entry on Family Search so SP is your only way.  The index search is free and it's only 7.50 for 30 credits
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:06 BST (UK)
If he died from 1855 onwards - his parents names plus mothers maiden name will be on his death cert
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: gratuation on Friday 14 April 17 22:08 BST (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 14 April 17 22:14 BST (UK)
Have you looked at the early census? There is for example this entry from 1841:

James Whitecross 45 Linen Hand Loom Weaver
Elspeth Whitecross 45
Joseph Whitecross 15 Linen Hand Loom Weaver
Thomas Whitecross 15 Linen Hand Loom Weaver        
Anna Whitecross 13 Flax Spinner
William Whitecross 10
Mary Whitecross 7

Address: Southesk Str, Montrose, Angus

Ages in 1841 are normally rounded to the nearest 5 years for everyone over 15 years old.

Monica
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:19 BST (UK)
There is this 1841 entry for Angus but it was Montrose - not Kirriemuir but he's the right age and later censuses don't show any other Thomas Whitecross in that age range

South Esk Street - all b Angus

James Whitecross 45 Linen hand loom weaver
Elspeth  45
Joseph  15
Thomas  15
Anna  13
Mary     7
William  10
Montrose ED 9 Page 17 Line 840


EDIT - Snap Monica
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:23 BST (UK)
In 1851 he is aged 25 and appears to be married to a Lilly b 1820 Benvir and suspect she was nee Hutchenson as there is a 5yr old Douglas Hutchenson b Benvir with them.  They are lodgers so no relationship shown

Liff and Benvie ED 95 Page 16 Line 5

Still alive in 1861 but seems to be widowed
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 14 April 17 22:27 BST (UK)
Can't see this family in 1841....but with Carole's suggestion of checking on SP...

I can't see Thomas' details, but there are children born in Kirriemuir in the right time frame to a David Whitecross and a Jean Lindsay (which you have mentioned).

Margaret 1802
Ann 1803
Betty 1805
James 1807
Janet 1809
David 1811
William 1814
Jean 1815
Elizabeth 1818
Frances 1820

What is the source of the name Jane Lindsay as a possible mother to Thomas?

One online tree (available to view only www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/36734920/person/19388811477/factswith a subs to A/try - gives at least one additional child to this couple:

Alexander 1823

Monica

Added: Some additional notes here for some of these children http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hilaryfr/whytcross/whitecross/

Also, lots of details here on RC from an old post www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=426981.msg2923190#msg2923190
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:28 BST (UK)
In 1871 he is re-married to Catherine so downloading a copy of his marriage cert will give parental info

He was still alive in 1901
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 April 17 22:39 BST (UK)
He died in 1901 according to the SP index

Thomas Whitecross aged 73 Arbroath  272/1  239   

It costs 6 credits to download a copy of his death cert = 1.50 
Title: Re: Thomas Whitecross
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 14 April 17 23:40 BST (UK)
From some of the entries mentioned by Carole, this is 1861 in full:

Thomas Whitecross 34 b. Kirriemuir
Joseph Whitecross 5 b. Dysart Fife
James Whitecross 1 b. Arbroath
Lawrence Whitecross Under 1 Month b. Arbroath
Catharine Blackward 32 servant b. ? Fifeshire

Address: Croals Wynd, Arbroath

I think baby Lawrence above should read William? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYB4-BF7

Catherine Blackward....should be Blackwood...is I think who shows as wife to Thomas in later years. Cannot see a marriage though. They either didn't marry or the marriage was irregular and will not show on the statutory registers.

In the 1871 census there shows an additional child, Francis born 1869 in Alyth. There is this possible index entry https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQXD-Y9R  Catherine mother is showing as Dickson. There seems to be a number of surnames coming in an out...

Best bet is the 1901 death registration mentioned by Carole.

Monica