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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: aidansrest on Friday 21 April 17 19:50 BST (UK)

Title: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: aidansrest on Friday 21 April 17 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi

Looking to find Sarah Ann prior to her marriage to Edward.
She was born c1879 in Llanasa, daughter of John Jones, a miner.
She married Edward in Llanasa Parish Church on the 26th May 1900, witnesses at the marriage were John Jones and Lizzie Jones. I believe that they may have been Sarah's siblings.
The 1901 Wales census finds the couple living in Newmarket, near Holywell, and on the same census page are listed:
John Alun Jones and his sister, Lizzie Jones.
John was 28 years of age and Lizzie was 29 years of age - both had been born in Llanasa.

I have tried, and failed to find John, Lizzie and Sarah Ann together with John (miner) as their father -can anyone help?

Sue
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: aidansrest on Friday 21 April 17 19:52 BST (UK)
Sorry forgot to mention - Sarah was born on the 9th March 1879 (according to 1939 register)

Sue
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 20:36 BST (UK)
In 1891 she is living in Prescot Lancashire with her father John and Mother Mary.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: aidansrest on Friday 21 April 17 20:57 BST (UK)
Hi
Not looking at census at the moment but are John and Lizzie with family?
To me, they would complete circle

Sue
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 20:58 BST (UK)
John is aged nine but Lizzie isn't.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 21:01 BST (UK)
We have to bear in mind that John Jones and it is Mary Parry didn't marry till 1875 at Llanasa.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: aidansrest on Friday 21 April 17 21:21 BST (UK)
Don't think that is the right family then.
John was born c1873 and Lizzie c 1872.
John would have been around 18 years old in 1891.

Sue
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 21:27 BST (UK)
Its my strong opinion that the John Alan Jones showing in 1901 is not a direct relative of Sarah Ann.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 21:29 BST (UK)
He was born before Sarah Ann's parents married for a start.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Friday 21 April 17 21:45 BST (UK)
If i'm right John Alan is listed in 1881 without his middle name,living in Llanasa the son of a John and Maria Jones.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: aidansrest on Saturday 22 April 17 08:13 BST (UK)
Hi William
John and Lizzie Jones are listed on the 1901 census as brother and sister and, given their closeness in age you would imagine that they would appear together with their parents at least once.
As they were both witnesses at Sarah Ann Jones' marriage to Edward Roberts and then can be found living close by a year later I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that all three were related.
Just need to find them all as children.

Sue
Title: Re: Edward Roberts & Sarah Ann Jones
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 22 April 17 08:23 BST (UK)
Now whether they may be cousins is another matter but one thing I can definitely rule out is them being siblings.

Regards
William Russell Jones.