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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: Danone on Wednesday 03 May 17 19:16 BST (UK)
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Hi guys
Found my mums grans father John Pryor age 21 in the coleorton parish he was a cowman ,he was born in great Dalby ,he married a Jane Hartshorn .dau Sarah Pryor born 1872 married 1904 John William deacon born 1877 checketts road Leicester .
Please can see if you can find out who he was working for.
Thanks
Steve
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When you say he was 21, what year was that? Have you found him in a census?
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Hi is he not the employee of the Joseph W Faux 37 occ Farmer etc at Farm Town, Coleorton in 1861 census
John Pryor 21 occ Cow Man b Great Dalby
Census Ref RG09/2271/12/18
Keyboard86
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Yes I have but said coleorton parish I must have been tired last night I looked at it again great dalby I have found a farm called March house farm .i think this may be the one it was on the 1861 coleorton census were we found it .
Steve
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Hi groom
1861 great dalby not coleorton ii think this is the farm March house farm the 1861 came under coleorton parish number 11 /16
Steve
John Pryor
There was another chap with him leishmaniasis.
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The other chap was lishman
Ste
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Steve, have you the marriage certificate/parish record of the marriage of John to Jane Hartshorn, as I see in 1881 census with Jane and amongst the children a Sarah born c 1873 he is b c 1842, in 1871 he is a John PRIOR 30 Jane 24 Edwin 3 May Jane 1 at Stanton Road, Ilkeston, Basford , Nottinghamshire
Census Ref RG10/34783/33/2
The reason I query this is that there are two John Pryor's b c 1840/2 in Great Dalby, as an example in 1861 census is another John aged 19 occ Carter b Great Dalby working for a John Wartnaby at Cottage, Great Dalby?
Census Ref RG09/2299/58/3
Keyboard86
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The John on the 1861 census as a cowman in Coleorton is 21 born Gt Dalby.
On the 1861 census the enumerator complained about how far spread the homes were and he would do his best :D He seems to have split it up in to area's, Church Town, Farm Town and Moor. John is in Farm Town.
There is a Coleorton Hall where Sir George Howland Beaumont farmed and had 25 farm labourers, perhaps he was employed here?
Jennifer
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Hey keyboard
Been a while
On the 1861 it says he's un. Married so this would be the same man before he married Jane we were looking to find out we're he was at the time farming. He with a chap called lishman so it should be to hard to find him.
Ste
I know I have every thing else on the family just I found this .
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Hi again, Steve the reason I have pointed out another John Pryor b Great Maltby b c 1840/2 in 1861, is to show you yes indeed they were both unmarried, so the only way to find out which is which is to locate just who the father was of the one who married Jane Hartshorn?
Keyboard86
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Hi Jennifer
Thanks very much for your answer as well my mums cousion was surprised by this he being a cowman .she said better then being a common lab .johns dau Sarah I have a photo of she small dark hair ,mum took after her as do I .dads side my brothers are taller then me .her husband was a Sargent in the Leicestershire regiment he was in Egypt .he was also a driver ,he got into some trouble out there and got put into jail .for fighting they stopped his money ,I have his war records ,before he whent in the army he was a chimney sweep ,he said he'd fell 40 foot down a chimney hurting his knee so that's why he had to come home .he became a shoe maker . Sara worked at barkby grange ,then for Mr Mrs mason in their pub in Nottingham which is a museum now .every time my brothers are here they make me look like a mouse but I'm proud that I found out about our family .family history throws up some funny things ,and makes relies were you come from and who you take after.dads families village is a Saxon village .my dads mum her family came from Nottingham they were lace makers .also fish mongers ,fruit seller ,her husband was a tv / radio repair man ..and a good fisher man their both gone now I still miss them Christmas isn't the same .my gran loved horse betting shed win quite a bit .i can't talk to them about family stuff so have had to do this on my own .my mums family took me to some real places and found out about them who they worked for .my grandads brother worked for lady ferrier at Staunton Harold house now garden center he worked in the walled garden which then was being used for soldiers who were being brought home to get well they grew food then no wonder I like gardens .
Ste
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Ok mate I will get the bag out Tomorrow and have a look at his for you will let you know .
Ste
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Hi Steve problem you have got is at present I cannot locate the marriage of John Pryor to Jane Hartshorn c 1868, by trial and error I found her birth registration as Jane Hartshorn September qtr 1846 Oakham Union v15 page 677 mmn Woodfield, this then led me to a potential marriage of a Robert Hartshorne to a Sarah Woodfield September qtr 1843 Leicester, in 1851 census they along with Jane aged 4 are in Barkby, Barrow upon Soar, the only concern is that in later returns Jane gives b 1847 Oakham, Rutland?!
Keyboard
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hi Jennifer
thanks for letting me know about farm town and this beaumont family .
steve