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Any information on William & Elizabeth Boulton living Gas Street, Leicester circa 1832
Searching for any BDM for children or relatives
With thanks
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Hi would love to help but by the 1841 census I cannot locate any Boulton/Bolton families in Gas Street, Leicester, just what is the relevance of Gas Street?
Keyboard86
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Gas Street shows up as the address where William & Elizabeth were living from correspondence in 1832. Their son Joseph was transported to Australia then but I am trying to find more information about the family or any other descendants in England.
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There is a death notice in the Leicester Mercury dated 3 Jan 1852: On the 30th, aged 65, Elizabeth, widow of William Boulton, Green-street.
In 1851 Elizabeth is living at 10, Lower Green Street, St Margaret with son-in-law Thomas Green 29, his wife Ann Green, also 29, and 3 children. Elizabeth is a pauper seamer aged 63, born Littlethorpe, Leics. HO107/2089/343/41
She was buried 4 Jan 1852 at Welford Road cemetery, Plot I869.
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I can't see a marriage for Thomas Green and Ann Boulton can you?
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Although Plot I869 is a common grave it looks like some other members of the Green family are buried in the same plot, so just in case any of the other surnames connect back, here is the full list:
03 Jan 1852 Stillborn child of Emma Collins of 11 Southampton Street, St George
16 Nov 1854 Stillborn child of Eliza Hollins of Richard Street, St George
16 Nov 1854 Michael Green aged 10 months of 10 Lower Green Street, St Margaret
11 Jun 1861 Emma Green aged 6 weeks of Gravel Street, St Margaret
03 Nov 1877 Clara Ellen Boulting aged 1 of Little Brunswick Street, St Margaret
08 Aug 1899 Sarah Ann Richardson aged 44 of The Workhouse
09 Apr 1914 Helen Giener King aged 32 of 127 Lansdown Road
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16 Nov 1854 Michael Green aged 10 months of 10 Lower Green Street, St Margaret
Michael has mothers maiden name Boulton plus same address as the 1851 census.
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There is a Thomas Green marriage in Jul-Sep 1842 in Leicester to Mary Ann Brown, Ellen Harris, Mary Ann Burnett or Ann Bolton
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So there is well found and a little later than I was expecting!
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1841 possible with
Eliza Bolton 50
Ann 20
Geo 1
The George who is then George Green after Ann marries Thomas Green perhaps?
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Sounds reasonable, although I'm not finding a baptism.
Some children baptised to William & Elizabeth:
25 Jul 1823 Ann d/o Willm & Elizth Boulton, Wood St, FWK
21 Jul 1826 Thomas s/o Willm & Elizth Bolton, Fisher's Row, FWK
12 Dec 1828 Diana d/o Willm & Elizth Boulton, Belgrave Gate, FWK
These are all quite late though, as Joseph was 19 when convicted in 1832, so born c 1813 :-\
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It does seem to be the same family though, as there is a burial at St Margaret on 6 Feb 1833 of Dinah d/o William & Elizabeth Bolton of Gas Street, aged 4
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Also the burial at St Margaret on 29 Jul 1833 of William Bolton aged 46 of Gas Street.
Poor Elizabeth - her son is transported and she buries a husband & daughter, all within a year.
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In the same grave as Elizabeth Boulton is Clara Ellen Boulting buried 03 Nov 1877 aged 1.
The GRO has her mother's maiden name as BOULTON, and the only Boulting/Boulton marriage I can find is Jul-Sep 1872 Leicester JOHN BOULTING married Louisa Day or Emma Jane BOULTON.
Birth of Emma Jane BOULTON Apr-Jun 1846 Leicester, Vol 15 p114, MMN BOOT.
25 Dec 1844, St Margaret
Henry Boulton of full age, bachelor, FWK of Barstone Street. Father: William Boulton FWK
Phebe Boot of full age, spinster of Baker Street. Father: John Boot FWK
Wit: George Mansfield & ?
Henry 38 & Phebe 42 are in Sparrow Hill, Loughborough by 1861, but the only baptism I can find that would fit his age is this one:
14 Jan 1822 St Mary, Henry Bolton s/o William & Lydia of Greens Lane, FWK ???
Other children baptised to William & Lydia Boulton/Bolton are Thomas on 30 May 1817 & Joseph on 8 Jan 1820 - the address on Joseph's baptism being Green Street.
There has to be a connection somewhere to the Joseph born c1813, but I'm just not seeing it.
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Was just looking at 1841
Robert Allen married Mary Bolton
Leicester, St. Margaret 01-Feb 1836 Banns
Robert Allen OTP Bach
Mary Boulton OTP Spin
Witness Joseph Wood
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Good spot. Some of their children's birth registrations show the MMN spelt Boulton.
By 1851 they are in Goodacre Street and Mary gives her PoB as St Margaret, but I cant find a baptism for her either. Interesting too that Mary & Robert name one of their sons Joseph - birth registered as Joseph OConnor Allen.
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Hi Jomot
Am stuck on the baptisms too
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Good Morning researchers
You are all amazing! So fabulous to find your work this morning...
Thank you so much...a lot to go on with
I descend directly from Joseph Boulton...he married another convict in Australia... the family had a very very tough life ....I have become very attached to them and want to know they live on over there also. My dream is to meet one of my cousins!
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I've been going back over the Green family, and its all starting to get very complicated!
Joseph was convicted 20 Mar 1832, so this may or may not be a coincidence:
11 Feb 1832, St Margaret
Joseph Boulton bachelor & Ann Green spinster by banns. Wit: William Jordan.
Joseph signed, Ann made her mark
08 Feb 1833, St Margaret, Emma d/o Joseph & Ann Bolton, Mill Street, FWK
18 Jul 1834, St Margaret, Thomas s/o Joseph & Ann Bolton, Woodboy Street, FWK
The letter you mentioned in your opening post is from the Home office Petitions series, but I think some of the file is missing as the one for my Leicester convict is about 12 pages, so if this is your Joseph there may also have been a letter from Ann. Also I know it would be impossible for Thomas to be Joseph's son, but an Ann Bolton, widow, married Thomas Marvin, widower at St Margaret's in 1837, so it's certainly worth looking into further.
We also had Ann Boulton/Bolton marrying Thomas Green in 1842, and these seem to be their children:
GREEN, EDWARD BOULTON 1844 M Quarter in LEICESTER UNION Volume 15 Page 93
GREEN, ELIZABETH BOLTON 1846 J Quarter in LEICESTER UNION Volume 15 Page 109
GREEN, HARRIET BOLTON 1849 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 15 Page 90
GREEN, MICHAEL BOULTON 1854 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 160
GREEN, THOMAS BOULTON 1856 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 170
GREEN, JOSEPH BOULTON 1858 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 145
GREEN, WILLIE BOLTON 1862 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 171
In 1841 Ann is living with Eliza and 1-year old George Bolton/Boulton, and a George Green s/o Thomas & Ann was baptised at the same time as Edward in 1844.
Then to complete the hat-trick there is this:
9 Sept 1844, St Margaret
George Green of full age, bachelor of North Gate Street, Father: Samuel Green FWK
Elizabeth Boulton of full age, spinster of North Gate Street, Father: William Boulton FWK
Wit: Frederick Turney (?) & Charlotte Boulton
Their children seem to be
GREEN, ELIZABETH BOULTON 1846 D Quarter in LEICESTER UNION Volume 15 Page
GREEN, ANN JANE BOULTON 1849 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 15 Page 137
GREEN, EMMA BOULTON 1861 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 182
Plus there are three I haven't matched with parents yet:
GREEN, SARAH ANN BOULTON 1845 M Quarter in LEICESTER UNION Volume 15 Page 123
GREEN, SARAH ANN BOULTON 1851 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 15 Page 96
GREEN, WILLIAM BOULTON 1853 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 202
I have no idea how many different Green or Boulton families are involved here, but good luck with trying to figure it out !!
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My Joseph was definitely tried July 1832 for stealing watch and arrived Australia 12 Feb 1833.
He could not read nor write so I expect the Joseph Boulton who married Ann Green is not the same person but must keep it open as it could be. Joseph's parents are not recorded on his death certificate...but are known from the Petition.
It looks like there is a Boulton Green family connection in there all the same...as you say trying to figure it out may take some time! I shall start the digestion!
If there is another petition of 12 pages...where would I find it?
Many thanks
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If there is another petition of 12 pages...where would I find it?
The letters, petitions etc were a collection of loose papers so the rest may simply be lost, damaged or destroyed. There could even be pages mis-filed in someone else's file. Mine had letters from his wife, a signed petition from neighbours, references from past employers, letters between various court officials, and ultimately the decision to uphold the original sentence - after all, he did steal some straw!