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Title: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Friday 02 June 17 09:03 BST (UK)
Having looked at registers which are not very clear I am looking for a Marriage between Daniel McCarthy & Margaret Walsh circa 1850 - 1854 in Mogeely (Imogeela) or Castlemartyr Co Cork.
Have also tried Family Search but when I enter Daniels name all the records show as Daniel father of bride or groom? Thank you
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 02 June 17 10:05 BST (UK)
Having looked at registers which are not very clear I am looking for a Marriage between Daniel McCarthy & Margaret Walsh circa 1850 - 1854 in Mogeely (Imogeela) or Castlemartyr Co Cork.
Have also tried Family Search but when I enter Daniels name all the records show as Daniel father of bride or groom? Thank you
If the marriage took place in a Catholic church before 1864 then it's unlikely to show up in the Irish (etracted) marriages on Family Search. The first results you get there should be for a Daniel McCarthy and Margaret Walsh, then results for a Daniel McCarthy and wife Margaret, etc. but that doesn't mean that any of those results are the ones you are looking for.

Since the records you looked at are hard to read then it's possible the marriage is listed.

For reference-
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634048#page/27/mode/1up

Added- records also available other places but if transcriber had difficulty reading the register (especially if only viewing a microfilm or photocopy)...
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0059&parish=Imogeela
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Friday 02 June 17 11:29 BST (UK)
Tks Aghadowey for your reply yes the registers are difficult to read only some legible unfortunately. Marriage would have been in RC Church. :)
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 02 June 17 11:44 BST (UK)
Marriages usually in bride's parish so next step is to check adjoining parishes if you aren't sure where she was from.
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: rathmore on Friday 02 June 17 14:42 BST (UK)
family search

http://www.familysearch.org

Daniel McCarthy marriage 1851 cork

Margaret Walsh marriage 1851 cork
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Friday 02 June 17 15:15 BST (UK)
family search

http://www.familysearch.org

Daniel McCarthy marriage 1851 cork

Margaret Walsh marriage 1851 cork
Tks Rathmore - any details i.e Vol & Page No ?
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Friday 02 June 17 15:16 BST (UK)
Marriages usually in bride's parish so next step is to check adjoining parishes if you aren't sure where she was from.
Dont know where Margaret Walsh was from so widening my search to adjoining parish of Ladysbridge/Ballymacoda
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 02 June 17 15:26 BST (UK)
family search
http://www.familysearch.org
Daniel McCarthy marriage 1851 cork
Margaret Walsh marriage 1851 cork

Once you find information it helps to post the links to save others from trying to find it  ::)

This record (1851 Cork) for Daniel McCarthy (volume 4 page 488) is from the civil index- in other words a non-Catholic Church or Registry Office-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT19-L53

Record for Margaret Walsh is volume 4 page 445-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT19-ZMX
Possibly she married James Harris-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXT-R4C
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: annclare on Sunday 04 June 17 12:17 BST (UK)
RE Daniel McCarthy Marriage - Daniel
Last name   McCarthy
Registration year   1851
Registered Quarter/Year   1851
Registration district   Cork
Volume   4
Page   488
MarriageFinder™   Daniel McCarthy married one of these people
Mary Dorrington, Mary Fitzgerald, Ellen Connellan

Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: annclare on Sunday 04 June 17 12:38 BST (UK)
This seems to be the baptism of their eldest child so marriage should be earlier? Johanna McCarthy   Date of Birth:   
        Date of Baptism:   01-Mar-1845
Address:   Carrignashinna   Parish/District:   IMOGEELA
Gender:   Female   County   Co. Cork
Denomination:   Roman Catholic
Father:   Daniel McCarthy   Mother:   Margaret Walsh
Occupation:         
Sponsor 1 /   John McCarthy
Sponsor 2 /   Catherine McCarthy

annclare
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Monday 05 June 17 19:28 BST (UK)
This seems to be the baptism of their eldest child so marriage should be earlier? Johanna McCarthy   Date of Birth:   
        Date of Baptism:   01-Mar-1845
Address:   Carrignashinna   Parish/District:   IMOGEELA
Gender:   Female   County   Co. Cork
Denomination:   Roman Catholic
Father:   Daniel McCarthy   Mother:   Margaret Walsh
Occupation:         
Sponsor 1 /   John McCarthy
Sponsor 2 /   Catherine McCarthy

annclare
Thanks Annclare I have a baptism for a Johanna in March 1855 from FindMyPast wonder if the 1845 Johanna died?  All their children seemed to be born in the 1850's
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Tuesday 06 June 17 20:05 BST (UK)
I found a Marriage entry that I cannot translate (latin)
NLI registers 21st April 1844 Parish Imogeela Diocese of Cloyne Co Cork Marriage
Richard McCarthy & Margaret Walsh Address Carrignashinna .

I am wondering is the McCarthy Christian name incorrect & maybe it is Daniel?
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: annclare on Tuesday 06 June 17 21:43 BST (UK)
Its Definitely Richard McCarthy Got dispensation "in duplice" think that might be to the 2nd degree - not sure.
annclare
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:32 BST (UK)
Its Definitely Richard McCarthy Got dispensation "in duplice" think that might be to the 2nd degree - not sure.
annclare
Annclare what would the reason for a dispensation do you know?
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: annclare on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:44 BST (UK)
Usually consanguinity 1st cousins not permitted usually - 2nd cousins usually given a dispensation and marriage allowed.
annclare
Title: Re: Cant locate Daniel & Margaret
Post by: ballydw on Tuesday 06 June 17 23:35 BST (UK)
Tks Annclare :)