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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Surrey => Topic started by: Tim Brayshaw on Thursday 15 June 17 22:29 BST (UK)
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I have a Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite, born 1886 in Lambeth, Surrey.
Her marriage certificate, in 1910 to a Frank Jordan shows her father as Charles Waite a Fruit Salesman (Doesn't say deceased). She is a spinster so not previously married. She was married in the county of Kent (Medway?)
I can not find her on the census in 1891 or 1901, or in 1911 with her husband either.
Can anyone help find this person?
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Frank jordan's occupation, age and address at marriage?
Pauline
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In case you don't have it, this looks like her baptism
Fanny Jane Waite
Baptism Date: 29 Dec 1886
Father: Charles John Waite
Mother: Mary Ann Addy Waite
Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Address is 3, Wootton Place, Cornwall? Road. Charles is a porter.
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Frank jordan's occupation, age and address at marriage?
Pauline
22 years old, it looks like it says, Stoker, RM as occupation. And address was 10 Dale Street, Chatham. They lived together at the time.
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And address was 10 Dale Street, Chatham. They lived together at the time.
Not necessarily. A lot of couples gave the same address so that the banns only had to be called in one church as it was cheaper. Sometimes it was the address of a friend or relative.
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And address was 10 Dale Street, Chatham. They lived together at the time.
Not necessarily. A lot of couples gave the same address so that the banns only had to be called in one church as it was cheaper. Sometimes it was the address of a friend or relative.
Thank you for that piece of information, i wasn't aware. Also thank you for the baptism record...I'm trying to find the marriage from that now; as both the Jordans and Waites are becoming very difficult to find across the board!
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Here is her birth, she was registered as Fanny
WAITE, FANNY JANE mmn JOLLY
1886 D Quarter
LAMBETH
Volume 01D Page 343
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This looks like the marriage
Marriages Mar 1878
JOLLY Mary Ann A
WAITE Charles John S
St. Giles 1b 651
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This is the family 1881, for age/POB ref. GRO has Mmn Jolly for Samuel, not checked others.
2, Conduct Court, St Martin in the Fields, Strand, London, England
Charles J S Waite Head Married Male 26 Market Porter Royston, Cambridgeshire
Mary A Waite Wife Married Female 26 Marylebone, Middlesex
James Waite Son Single Male 8 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex
Charles Waite Son Single Male 3 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex
Samuel Waite Son Single Male 0 St Giles, Middlesex, England
Charles Jolley Brother In Law Single Male 18 Valstone Maker Marylebone, Middlesex
Richard Rolsham Boarder Married Male 21 Laundryman St Giles, Middlesex
Georgina Rolsham Wife Married Female 20 St Giles
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Went in for some fancy names! ;D
Samuel Corneinelson Waite
Baptism : 7 Jul 1880
Father's name: Charles John Samuel Waite
Mother's name: Mary Anne Adey Waite
Kingsway Holy Trinity
Camden
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Went in for some fancy names! ;D
Samuel Corneinelson Waite
Baptism : 7 Jul 1880
Father's name: Charles John Samuel Waite
Mother's name: Mary Anne Adey Waite
Kingsway Holy Trinity
Camden
Now this is interesting because that middle name was in a possible marriage record for Charles' parents!
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That could explain it then if he was given a name of a grandparent.
I can't find the family in 1891 or 1901 although Samuel is in the 1901 married to Elizabeth and living at 17 Wootten Street.
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Family in 1901, all with Mmn Jolly, no Fanny Jane with family.
1901 - 27, Broadwall, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
Charles J Waite Head Married Male 44 Market Porter Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Waite Wife Married Female 42 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Harry Waite Son Single Male 10 Surrey, England
Mabel Waite Daughter Single Female 12 Surrey, England
Beatrice Waite Daughter Single Female 8 Surrey, England
Maud Waite Daughter Single Female 6 Surrey, England
Albert Waite Son Single Male 18 Middlesex
Cas
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Family in 1901, all with Mmn Jolly. no Fanny Jane with family.
1901 - 27, Broadwall, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
Charles J Waite Head Married Male 44 Market Porter Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Waite Wife Married Female 42 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Harry Waite Son Single Male 10 Surrey, England
Mabel Waite Daughter Single Female 12 Surrey, England
Beatrice Waite Daughter Single Female 8 Surrey, England
Maud Waite Daughter Single Female 6 Surrey, England
Albert Waite Son Single Male 18 Middlesex
Cas
Thank you for this. In 1901 there is a Fanny Waite in an Orphanage...would this make no sense?
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Don't think it's her in orphanage, family had a number of children all seemingly raised by parents.
Not locating 1891, but the couple are having children born in area. At least the mother has not remarried, or parents died.
Maybe missed off 1891 census, or its unreadable?
Cas
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Think this maybe them married, image matches surname.
F M P 1911 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPF-PRD
Likely firstborn b late 1911
Cas
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Fanny would be 15 by 1901 so could be working and living elsewhere as a servant. If that is the case her name may have been recorded incorrectly. You say that she was married in the Medway area of Kent, but her family seem to remain around the Lambeth/Southwark area of London, so perhaps she was working as a servant in that area and married from there?
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Not locating 1891, but the couple are having children born in area. At least the mother has not remarried, or parents died.
Maybe missed off 1891 census, or its unreadable?
Could be lost in 1891.
Baptism at St John the Evangelist, Waterloo Road, Lambeth, 29 March 1891
born 7 March 1891
Henry James
parents Charles + Mary Ann Waite
abode 3 Wootton Pl. Wootton St.
father a Market Porter
Historical Streets Project
Lambeth Registration District, 1891 Census Street Index U-Z
Wootton Place - Wootton Street missing after f 147 RG 12/387
Wootton Street - Part 56-end MISSING after f 147, 1-56 part = RG 12/387 folios 139-147
That is in sub district Waterloo Road First, enumeration district 5, ending with
Wootton St. both sides
Wootton Place
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Isn't that just typical!