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Title: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: MMcD on Tuesday 20 June 17 19:31 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for some information on the two listed. Ebbi/Abby/Abraham and Sarah Patton/Peyton are my Great-Great Grandparents.

They were married in Ramelton/Rathmelton, Co. Donegal on 05/12/1862.  They had 6 children:

Samuel - Born 1860 in Scotland
Catherine - Born 1866 in Ramelton/Rathmelton
John - Born 1868 in Ramelton/Rathmelton
Thomas - Born 1870 in Ramelton/Rathmelton
Susan - Born 1872 in Ramelton/Rathmelton
Joanna/Jane - Born 1875 in Ramelton/Rathmelton

I have birth records for all of the above, the name Abby/Abraham/James/Ebbi Peoples appears on all of them as the father, cross referenced with the mothers name "Sarah/Sara".

Abbys father was John Peoples (no idea where from, Ramelton?) and Sarahs father was Michael Patton, I assume from Ramelton.

I can find Sara on the 1901 and 1911 census, also her death record in 1915 in Ramelton.  Abby doesnt exist here so assume he died sometime before this.

Looks like their son Thomas married someone called "Jane Kidd" in 1896, the father (Abby) is listed as deceased.  So assume he died between 1875 and 1896.

Wondering if anyone has any record of this lineage?

Cheers,
M
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:11 BST (UK)
Milford would be the Registry Office, have you searched Civil Reg for his Death?

 Death results for Peoples
Area - Milford

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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k9w/
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:19 BST (UK)
They seem to be under Milford and Millford but you can select each from Index on left...

 Death results for Peoples  irishgenealogy

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Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:29 BST (UK)
There is also the option for 1800's or 1900's there!
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:41 BST (UK)
Lived Main Street,
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Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:48 BST (UK)
"....Looks like their son Thomas married someone called "Jane Kidd" in 1896, the father (Abby) is listed as deceased.   ....."

 Marriage results for Thomas Peoples

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Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 20:51 BST (UK)
 Marriage of ABBY JAMES PEOPLES
in 1862
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Milford
Returns Year   1862
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   8
Returns Page No   101

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Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 20 June 17 21:50 BST (UK)
Susan Peoples married a soldier Henry Hugh Dunn in 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10354/5769242.pdf
son Henry 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01943/1751223.pdf

1901 mother Sarah still married
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Rathmelton/Castle_Street/1193355/

1911 a widow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Rathmelton/Castle_Street/503204/
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 22:00 BST (UK)
So they were RC have you checked the RC Registers online?
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 20 June 17 22:14 BST (UK)
on Sarah's death cert there seems to be some doubt about her marital status
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05281/4466891.pdf
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 20 June 17 22:19 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 21 June 17 07:51 BST (UK)
Robert Bowie and Jane Peoples dtr of Edward James Peoples a smith
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01943/1751223.pdf

Jane Peoples 1875 father in Philadelphia,North America
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03114/2142124.pdf
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: MMcD on Wednesday 21 June 17 08:43 BST (UK)
Thank you both very much for the input, there was talk about him and his wife moving to the USA, but it certainly appears she did not.

It appears that Ebbi/Abby went to the USA pre 1875.  This does add up as he has been hard to track down.

The name Edward Peoples is totally new!  I now have him as Abraham, James, Ebbi, Ebi, Aby, Abbey and Edward!  On Samuels birth register in Scotland, his surname is "Peebles", all makes him hard to track down.

They were married presbyterian and appear to have converted.

On the 1901 census, Sarah reports as married and then as widowed in 1911?  I wonder if this is the time gap where he died?  I had originally thought that the 1901 census was not accurate or she reported married even though he was dead.  Very interesting.

As for the Thomas Peoples and Jane Kidd marriage, I found a reference to it on a Scottish thread:  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=277480.18

Going to make contact on that also, but she states there that Ebbi is deceased at that time.
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 21 June 17 09:48 BST (UK)
Have you got this birth cert and marriage of Agnes McLasen Kidd Peebles
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894V-4DV
or
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMR-MYQN

Kathleen Peebles
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y39Y-9CQ?i=216&cc=1784216
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: MMcD on Wednesday 21 June 17 10:25 BST (UK)
Hi Dathi,

This is really good stuff, thank you very much!  Peebles makes an appearance once again!

Not sure where Thomas and Janet married but will keep looking.

It looks like Catherine died in 1905, around 6 weeks after giving birth to her final child, looks like the child (Mary Murray) died 3 days after birth.  This would explain the "One of six childen deceased" in Sarahs 1911 census record.

Will follow the Peebles thing again maybe in the USA for Abby.

Thanks again for this, its great!
Title: Re: Abby/Ebbi James Peoples - Sarah Patton - Married 05.12.1862 Ramelton
Post by: MMcD on Thursday 22 June 17 10:11 BST (UK)
Hallmark, sorry I missed your earlier remark.

On Abby and Sarahs wedding record, they were Presbyterian, somewhere along the line there was a change or confusion. Some of the children also list this on their marriage certificates, maybe they changed back!

It does appear that Abby moved to the USA pre 1875.  I have searched through some passenger lists but found nothing.  I am pretty amateur at this by the way. 

On the other forum, someone has pointed out a possible birth record for him,  I am waiting to hear back from them, not overly confident as they haven't been active in a while.

I don't have marriage certificate for Thomas and Jane Kidd either but found some ancestors of theirs on ancestry.ie, just funny on their kids birth/marriage records, it lists him as being born in Scotland.  However, the user who has seen the marriage record states that Abby is listed as the father and is deceased.