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Title: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi All

I am trying to find the date of births of the Gee siblings, there were 11 of them. I do have a lot of them but the ones I cant find are.
Florrie Gee born 1898 died 1898 probably won't find one for her.
Nellie Gee born 1900 died 1900   ..........................................
Henry Nelson Gee born 1899 died 1970.
William George Gee born 1902 died ????.
Richard James Gee born 1907 died ????.
Ethel Maud Gee born 1913 don't know who she married.

Alan

Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: sunflower on Sunday 25 June 17 17:13 BST (UK)
Gould this be Richard James baptism

Richard James Gee 14 July 1907 to Henry & Lydia, Drayman,  55 Arbour Road at Belgrave St Michaels

Carol
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 17:15 BST (UK)
Baptism, but no date of birth -

William George Gee
Birth year   1902
Baptism - 09 Nov 1902, St Michael's, Belgrave
Parents - Henry and Lydia Gee
Father's occupation - Carman
Abode - 84 Moores Road

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 17:16 BST (UK)
Hi Carol

Yes that is him his mother was Lydia Mansell.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 25 June 17 19:08 BST (UK)
From the GRO site mmn Mansell
Florrie Mar 1898 Leicester 7a 193
Nellie Sep 1900 Leicester 7a 172
Henry Nelson Jun 1899 Leicester 7a 204
William George Dec 1902 Leicester 7a 189 looks like he might have been a twin
John Thomas Dec 1902 Leicester 7a 189
Richard James Sep 1907 Leicester 7a 183
Ethel Maud Mar 1913 Leicester 7a 394

A possible marriage for Ethel

Ethel M Gee/Alfred A Harrison Jun 1934 Leicester 7a 688

Emeltom
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 25 June 17 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi re Ethel Maud Gee, I believe she married an Alfred A Harrison June qtr 1934 Leicester v7a 688, then all goes a bit awry as her death is I believe Ethel Maud Cunningham Sept qtr 1983 aged 70 Leicester Central v6 page 1338 her birth shown as 6th February 1913.

There is a marriage of a Thomas H V Cunningham to an Ethel M Cunningham June qtr 1971 Leicester v3a page 1875?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Baptism, but no date of birth -

William George Gee
Birth year   1902
Baptism - 09 Nov 1902, St Michael's, Belgrave
Parents - Henry and Lydia Gee
Father's occupation - Carman
Abode - 84 Moores Road

JJ

John Thomas Gee was baptised on the same day as William George Gee.

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Hi
Thank you for your help.

I do have all the Gro Births and I do have the DOB's of the other 5.

The Cunningham Marriage does look promising

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:19 BST (UK)
So those two are twins then.

When I was looking at family search earlier I did find some Military records for either Richard or William I think the date was 1918.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:23 BST (UK)
It was William George WW1 records in 1918 but I couldn't find a way to access it.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 19:25 BST (UK)
So those two are twins then.

When I was looking at family search earlier I did find some Military records for either Richard or William I think the date was 1918.

Alan

Richard would only be 11 in 1918, therefore not old enough to join up in 1918. Equally William would only be 16.

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 19:29 BST (UK)
It was William George WW1 records in 1918 but I couldn't find a way to access it.

Alan

That William George Gee was 34 years old when he enlisted in 1916, discharged in 1918.

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 25 June 17 19:30 BST (UK)
Hi again, possibly Alfred A Harrison & Ethel Maud divorced, as a possible death for Alfred A is:-

Alfred Abraham Harrison born 29th September 1915 died June qtr 1989 Leicester Central v6 page 1686 aged 73
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:35 BST (UK)
Thanks JJ that's solved that one.  :)

I do have a John Sydney signed up for the Royal navy when he was 15 29/6/1866 then had his first engagement 10/8/1869 on his 18th birthday but as you say he was 34.

Keyboard that is good work.
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 19:41 BST (UK)
I do have a John Sydney signed up for the Royal navy when he was 15 29/6/1866 then had his first engagement 10/8/1869 on his 18th birthday but as you say he was 34.

The age of enlistment was quite different for WW1 as opposed to that in the 1860's.

The recruit had to be aged between 18 and 38 (although he could not be sent overseas until he was aged 19). However there were occasions when age was lied about  :)

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:49 BST (UK)
Thanks JJ I learn something every day.

It does look like that Cunningham marriage is the one because I put the Page and Volume in FreeBMD along with the year and June qtr.

I think it must be Just a typing error. I would like to have a look at the original image for Ethel. It would be on Ancestry but cant access it at this moment.

Alan

Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 19:58 BST (UK)
I will be able to look at the 1939 register on Tuesday at the records Office Find my Past is free access there.I can look for Ethel living with Alfred and it might be updated to Cunningham.

Also I should be able to find Henry Nelson he didn't die till 1970.

If Richard and George were still alive in 1939 I will probably be able to find them.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 20:38 BST (UK)
Richard J Gee married Martha I Bowerman -

q3 1929, Leicester
Vol 7a Page 1002

On a free search of the 1939 Richard J Gee (b.1907) is living in Leicester with Martha I Gee (b.1909) and three more people who are officially closed.

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: willsy on Sunday 25 June 17 20:43 BST (UK)
From the  Leicester Schools age register index 1878-1923 which have birth dates

Gee   Henry Nelson   24 Mar 1899
Gee   William George   4 Oct   1902

From  Leicester School exemption register index 1892-1935

Left school 26 Apr 1927   
Gee   Ethel Maud    ......6 Feb   1913

Left school 22 Aug 1921   
Gee   Richard James...   21 Jun 1907

Index 1892-1920
Left school 19 Mar 1913   
Gee   Henry Nelson age 14

Left school 6 Oct 1916   
Gee   William George   14




Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 20:44 BST (UK)
William G Gee married Winifred S Holyoak -

q2 1929, Leicester
Vol 7a Page 775

They can also be found on the free search of the 1939, living in Leicester but one record is closed. If you are able to gain access to FindMyPast on Tuesday you will be able to view the image for their date of births.

JJ

Added - What a great source of info Willsy! Perhaps Alan will no longer need to look at the 1939  :)
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 20:51 BST (UK)
Hi JJ

That is nice to know.

What I am doing is writing a Mansell Family Tree book I have already wrote most of it and have 107 pages at the moment but I have started from page 1 again and got t0 page 45 at the moment filling in the blanks and tidying it up also adding pictures. Where a female Mansell married some one I put down all their children along with their births. If its a Male Mansell then I continue with their family as well.

Well Willsy how fantastic is that. I have them all now  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 20:55 BST (UK)
William George Gee of 19 The Wayne Way, Leicester died 15 November 1950 near The Royal Infirmary, Leicester.
Administration to Winifred Sarah Gee, Widow. Effects - £145 12s 1d

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 21:07 BST (UK)
It would appear that Richard J Gee, Martha, 2 boys aged 14 and 2 and a girl aged 11 departed London on 17 Dec 1948 for Melbourne, Australia. Ship - Ormonde

Abode - 28 Trafford Road, Uppingham Road, Leicester

JJ

Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: willsy on Sunday 25 June 17 21:07 BST (UK)
Not had a look at those registers in ages!

Have another ref for marriages and Richard and William married at Uppingham Road Baptist Church, Ethel at the reg, office
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 21:07 BST (UK)
I am going to push my luck now.

The mother of those children Lydia Mansell had 14 siblings 6 of those are sisters I have all the birth dates for their children except one family the Wyatt's. They had six children, three I have the three I don't have are

Florence Wyatt  born 1903 Sheldon, Birmingham. I think she married a someone James.
Lydia Edith Wyatt born 1906 Water Orton think she married a someone Diggory
Mary Wyatt born 1910 Water Orton

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 21:12 BST (UK)
It would appear that Richard J Gee, Martha, 2 boys aged 14 and 2 and a girl aged 11 departed London on 17 Dec 1948 for Melbourne, Australia. Ship - Ormonde

Abode - 28 Trafford Road, Uppingham Road, Leicester

JJ


Richard James Gee died in 1953, New South Wales.
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 21:18 BST (UK)
Your all amazing

Henry Gee and Lydia Mansell did have two more children but died sadly.
 Florrie born and died 1898.
Nellie born and died 1900.

I know there is no chance of birth dates for those.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 21:27 BST (UK)
I also have never been able to find the father Henry's death born 9/11/1870 last known address in 1939 Methuen Avenue, Barrow upon Soar. Lydia died in 1940.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: willsy on Sunday 25 June 17 21:32 BST (UK)
At Saffron Hill

GEE   William George   48   19 The Wayne Way / Royal Infirmary   Leicester   18-Nov   1950
Ashes scatterred in garden
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: JJen on Sunday 25 June 17 21:32 BST (UK)
Lydia Edith Diggory of 4 Fashoda Road, Selly Park, Birmingham
Birth Date - 22 Nov 1905
Date of Death - 31 Oct 1995
Age at Death - 90
Registration district - Birmingham
Inferred County - Warwickshire

JJ
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 25 June 17 21:34 BST (UK)
Hi again, I believe the death of Henry was Henry Gee b abt 1870 died Dec qtr 1943 Barrow upon Soar aged 73?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 22:04 BST (UK)
I think Mary Wyatt may have married Arthur W Green in 1939. Which makes it very hard to find a Mary Green there are hundreds of them around water Orton area.

Alan

Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 22:15 BST (UK)
I have found Mary 4/8/1910.

I had her birth off the FreeBmD which had no middle name just a -
On the Gro with the mmn it was Sophia and its on the death on Family Search

The Marriage is Mary S to Arthur W Green

What a great day :) :) :)

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Tuesday 27 June 17 15:34 BST (UK)
I now have found Florrie Wyatt's DOB from the 1939 register she did marry Percy James.

Alan  :) :)
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Artypie on Wednesday 28 June 17 11:51 BST (UK)
Did you get to look at the 1939 register? If not you will be interested to know you were correct about the name  Cunningham.

Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Wednesday 28 June 17 11:59 BST (UK)
Yes I did get that 1939 image thank you

Alan  :) :)
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Artypie on Wednesday 28 June 17 12:12 BST (UK)
There is a christening for Nellie Gee 01 Jul 1900 at Belgrave, St Michael's, parents Harry and Lydia.
Archive reference    DE1468/2, Page    93, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms

On the original image, the address is 84 Moores Rd and his occupation is soldier.
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Mansl on Wednesday 28 June 17 12:43 BST (UK)
Thank You for that very pleased with your help. I now have Nellie, William and Richard's Baptisms.

That leaves Florrie, Henry, John, Arthur, Harry, Louisa, Edith and Ethel to find.

Alan
Title: Re: Gee Family
Post by: Artypie on Wednesday 28 June 17 13:50 BST (UK)
Arthur Edwin Gee, Baptism date 06 Mar 1904, Belgrave, St Michael's.
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Archive reference DE1468/3, Page 80, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms.

John Thomas Gee, Baptism date    09 Nov 1902, Belgrave, St Michael's
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Archive reference    DE1468/3, Page    49, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms

Henry Nelson Gee, Baptism date 21 May 1899, Baptism place    Water Orton, Warwickshire.
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Father's last name, Mother's last name: Gee
Record set: Warwickshire Baptisms