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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: Mansl on Sunday 25 June 17 17:07 BST (UK)
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Hi All
I am trying to find the date of births of the Gee siblings, there were 11 of them. I do have a lot of them but the ones I cant find are.
Florrie Gee born 1898 died 1898 probably won't find one for her.
Nellie Gee born 1900 died 1900 ..........................................
Henry Nelson Gee born 1899 died 1970.
William George Gee born 1902 died ????.
Richard James Gee born 1907 died ????.
Ethel Maud Gee born 1913 don't know who she married.
Alan
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Gould this be Richard James baptism
Richard James Gee 14 July 1907 to Henry & Lydia, Drayman, 55 Arbour Road at Belgrave St Michaels
Carol
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Baptism, but no date of birth -
William George Gee
Birth year 1902
Baptism - 09 Nov 1902, St Michael's, Belgrave
Parents - Henry and Lydia Gee
Father's occupation - Carman
Abode - 84 Moores Road
JJ
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Hi Carol
Yes that is him his mother was Lydia Mansell.
Alan
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From the GRO site mmn Mansell
Florrie Mar 1898 Leicester 7a 193
Nellie Sep 1900 Leicester 7a 172
Henry Nelson Jun 1899 Leicester 7a 204
William George Dec 1902 Leicester 7a 189 looks like he might have been a twin
John Thomas Dec 1902 Leicester 7a 189
Richard James Sep 1907 Leicester 7a 183
Ethel Maud Mar 1913 Leicester 7a 394
A possible marriage for Ethel
Ethel M Gee/Alfred A Harrison Jun 1934 Leicester 7a 688
Emeltom
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Hi re Ethel Maud Gee, I believe she married an Alfred A Harrison June qtr 1934 Leicester v7a 688, then all goes a bit awry as her death is I believe Ethel Maud Cunningham Sept qtr 1983 aged 70 Leicester Central v6 page 1338 her birth shown as 6th February 1913.
There is a marriage of a Thomas H V Cunningham to an Ethel M Cunningham June qtr 1971 Leicester v3a page 1875?
Keyboard86
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Baptism, but no date of birth -
William George Gee
Birth year 1902
Baptism - 09 Nov 1902, St Michael's, Belgrave
Parents - Henry and Lydia Gee
Father's occupation - Carman
Abode - 84 Moores Road
JJ
John Thomas Gee was baptised on the same day as William George Gee.
JJ
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Hi
Thank you for your help.
I do have all the Gro Births and I do have the DOB's of the other 5.
The Cunningham Marriage does look promising
Alan
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So those two are twins then.
When I was looking at family search earlier I did find some Military records for either Richard or William I think the date was 1918.
Alan
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It was William George WW1 records in 1918 but I couldn't find a way to access it.
Alan
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So those two are twins then.
When I was looking at family search earlier I did find some Military records for either Richard or William I think the date was 1918.
Alan
Richard would only be 11 in 1918, therefore not old enough to join up in 1918. Equally William would only be 16.
JJ
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It was William George WW1 records in 1918 but I couldn't find a way to access it.
Alan
That William George Gee was 34 years old when he enlisted in 1916, discharged in 1918.
JJ
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Hi again, possibly Alfred A Harrison & Ethel Maud divorced, as a possible death for Alfred A is:-
Alfred Abraham Harrison born 29th September 1915 died June qtr 1989 Leicester Central v6 page 1686 aged 73
Keyboard86
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Thanks JJ that's solved that one. :)
I do have a John Sydney signed up for the Royal navy when he was 15 29/6/1866 then had his first engagement 10/8/1869 on his 18th birthday but as you say he was 34.
Keyboard that is good work.
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I do have a John Sydney signed up for the Royal navy when he was 15 29/6/1866 then had his first engagement 10/8/1869 on his 18th birthday but as you say he was 34.
The age of enlistment was quite different for WW1 as opposed to that in the 1860's.
The recruit had to be aged between 18 and 38 (although he could not be sent overseas until he was aged 19). However there were occasions when age was lied about :)
JJ
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Thanks JJ I learn something every day.
It does look like that Cunningham marriage is the one because I put the Page and Volume in FreeBMD along with the year and June qtr.
I think it must be Just a typing error. I would like to have a look at the original image for Ethel. It would be on Ancestry but cant access it at this moment.
Alan
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I will be able to look at the 1939 register on Tuesday at the records Office Find my Past is free access there.I can look for Ethel living with Alfred and it might be updated to Cunningham.
Also I should be able to find Henry Nelson he didn't die till 1970.
If Richard and George were still alive in 1939 I will probably be able to find them.
Alan
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Richard J Gee married Martha I Bowerman -
q3 1929, Leicester
Vol 7a Page 1002
On a free search of the 1939 Richard J Gee (b.1907) is living in Leicester with Martha I Gee (b.1909) and three more people who are officially closed.
JJ
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From the Leicester Schools age register index 1878-1923 which have birth dates
Gee Henry Nelson 24 Mar 1899
Gee William George 4 Oct 1902
From Leicester School exemption register index 1892-1935
Left school 26 Apr 1927
Gee Ethel Maud ......6 Feb 1913
Left school 22 Aug 1921
Gee Richard James... 21 Jun 1907
Index 1892-1920
Left school 19 Mar 1913
Gee Henry Nelson age 14
Left school 6 Oct 1916
Gee William George 14
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William G Gee married Winifred S Holyoak -
q2 1929, Leicester
Vol 7a Page 775
They can also be found on the free search of the 1939, living in Leicester but one record is closed. If you are able to gain access to FindMyPast on Tuesday you will be able to view the image for their date of births.
JJ
Added - What a great source of info Willsy! Perhaps Alan will no longer need to look at the 1939 :)
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Hi JJ
That is nice to know.
What I am doing is writing a Mansell Family Tree book I have already wrote most of it and have 107 pages at the moment but I have started from page 1 again and got t0 page 45 at the moment filling in the blanks and tidying it up also adding pictures. Where a female Mansell married some one I put down all their children along with their births. If its a Male Mansell then I continue with their family as well.
Well Willsy how fantastic is that. I have them all now :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Alan
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William George Gee of 19 The Wayne Way, Leicester died 15 November 1950 near The Royal Infirmary, Leicester.
Administration to Winifred Sarah Gee, Widow. Effects - £145 12s 1d
JJ
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It would appear that Richard J Gee, Martha, 2 boys aged 14 and 2 and a girl aged 11 departed London on 17 Dec 1948 for Melbourne, Australia. Ship - Ormonde
Abode - 28 Trafford Road, Uppingham Road, Leicester
JJ
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Not had a look at those registers in ages!
Have another ref for marriages and Richard and William married at Uppingham Road Baptist Church, Ethel at the reg, office
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I am going to push my luck now.
The mother of those children Lydia Mansell had 14 siblings 6 of those are sisters I have all the birth dates for their children except one family the Wyatt's. They had six children, three I have the three I don't have are
Florence Wyatt born 1903 Sheldon, Birmingham. I think she married a someone James.
Lydia Edith Wyatt born 1906 Water Orton think she married a someone Diggory
Mary Wyatt born 1910 Water Orton
Alan
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It would appear that Richard J Gee, Martha, 2 boys aged 14 and 2 and a girl aged 11 departed London on 17 Dec 1948 for Melbourne, Australia. Ship - Ormonde
Abode - 28 Trafford Road, Uppingham Road, Leicester
JJ
Richard James Gee died in 1953, New South Wales.
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Your all amazing
Henry Gee and Lydia Mansell did have two more children but died sadly.
Florrie born and died 1898.
Nellie born and died 1900.
I know there is no chance of birth dates for those.
Alan
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I also have never been able to find the father Henry's death born 9/11/1870 last known address in 1939 Methuen Avenue, Barrow upon Soar. Lydia died in 1940.
Alan
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At Saffron Hill
GEE William George 48 19 The Wayne Way / Royal Infirmary Leicester 18-Nov 1950
Ashes scatterred in garden
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Lydia Edith Diggory of 4 Fashoda Road, Selly Park, Birmingham
Birth Date - 22 Nov 1905
Date of Death - 31 Oct 1995
Age at Death - 90
Registration district - Birmingham
Inferred County - Warwickshire
JJ
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Hi again, I believe the death of Henry was Henry Gee b abt 1870 died Dec qtr 1943 Barrow upon Soar aged 73?
Keyboard86
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I think Mary Wyatt may have married Arthur W Green in 1939. Which makes it very hard to find a Mary Green there are hundreds of them around water Orton area.
Alan
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I have found Mary 4/8/1910.
I had her birth off the FreeBmD which had no middle name just a -
On the Gro with the mmn it was Sophia and its on the death on Family Search
The Marriage is Mary S to Arthur W Green
What a great day :) :) :)
Alan
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I now have found Florrie Wyatt's DOB from the 1939 register she did marry Percy James.
Alan :) :)
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Did you get to look at the 1939 register? If not you will be interested to know you were correct about the name Cunningham.
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Yes I did get that 1939 image thank you
Alan :) :)
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There is a christening for Nellie Gee 01 Jul 1900 at Belgrave, St Michael's, parents Harry and Lydia.
Archive reference DE1468/2, Page 93, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms
On the original image, the address is 84 Moores Rd and his occupation is soldier.
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Thank You for that very pleased with your help. I now have Nellie, William and Richard's Baptisms.
That leaves Florrie, Henry, John, Arthur, Harry, Louisa, Edith and Ethel to find.
Alan
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Arthur Edwin Gee, Baptism date 06 Mar 1904, Belgrave, St Michael's.
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Archive reference DE1468/3, Page 80, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms.
John Thomas Gee, Baptism date 09 Nov 1902, Belgrave, St Michael's
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Archive reference DE1468/3, Page 49, Record set: Leicestershire Baptisms
Henry Nelson Gee, Baptism date 21 May 1899, Baptism place Water Orton, Warwickshire.
Father's first name(s) Henry, Mother's first name(s) Lydia
Father's last name, Mother's last name: Gee
Record set: Warwickshire Baptisms