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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: HantsMark on Friday 30 June 17 14:10 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out more about Jane Lamont, born around 1824 (not known where) who gave birth to an illegitimate son John Eadie, 21st August 1843. She was described as being 19 years "of Logie" so born around 1824. However, oddly, the birth is recorded in Alva, 4 miles east (and then in Clackmannanshire). However, I am assuming (never a great idea!) that 'Logie' is the one near Stirling.
The minister who baptised John was the Rev Paisley from St Ninians and there is a Rev Paisley at the St Ninians in Stirling at that time.
Any thoughts on how to get more on Jane Lamont or John Eadie's father? I have tried some of the logical Ancestry.co.uk searches using these surnames, dates and areas but have drawn a blank.
Is it possible that Jean Lamont went to Alva to have the baby away from people she knew in Logie? I'm also aware that both Logie and Alva are very close to Dunblane, where all Eadie roads eventually lead. And to a sea of John Eadies.
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So you dont have this then?
1851 Census
Alva, Stirlingshire
Mungs Hutton, 23, Head, Farm Servant, born Auchterarder, Perthshire
JANE Hutton, 24, Wife, born Port J Monterth, Perthshire****
John EADW, 7, Son of Wife, born Alva, Stirlingshire*****
Mary Hutton, 1, Daug, born Logie, Perthshire
1861 Census Larbert;
Mungo Hutton 33
Jane Hutton 34
Mary Hutton 11
William Hutton 9
Ann Hutton 8
Margret Hutton 5
James M Hutton 3
Munzo Hutton 1
Name: Mungo Hutton
Gender: Male
Birth Date:15 Aug 1859
Birth Place: Cumbernauld,Dunbarton,Scotland
Father: Mungo Hutton
Mother: Jane Lamont
Mungo Jnr age 22 and a James Hutton age 20 leave for Australia1883
Mungo marries and dies in New Zealand 1944
Marriage;
1 November 1848, Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
Mungo HUTTON to Jean LAMMOND
Trish :)
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That's brilliant! I have been trying for days and couldn't get anything. Thank you so much!
I must have put 100 variations into Ancestry.co.uk and was close to giving up.
Is this from Ancestry.co.uk or Scotlands People...both of which I tried?
Need time to analyse that.
Mark
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"Jane Lamont, born around 1824 (not known where) who gave birth to an illegitimate son John Eadie, 21st August 1843"
Hi,
Can you clarify whether John was bapt. John Eadie or John Eadie Lamont please?
It seems strange if he was John Eadie that his father's name is not included?
Annie
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Do you know if John married as he possibly gave his father's name on the marriage?
Annie
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Yes, he married Isabella Lawson. I haven't yet got the documentation from that marriage, but that's a good idea. I'm just working through all the data from putting these Hutton names in!
Mark
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This appears to be Jane in 1891 so a Death Cert may be found on Scotlandspeople for her possibly 1891-1901
1891 Larbert, Stirling
Jane Hutton, 69, born Logie, Stirlingshire
Peter Hutton, 27
Name John Lamont Or Eadie
Gender Male
Birth Date 21 Aug 1843
Birth Place Alva,Stirling,Scotland
FHL Film Number 1041970
Household Members
John Lamont Or Eadie
Jean Lamont
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Familysearch has;
John Lamont Or Eadie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 21 August 1843 ALVA, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
mother: Jean Lamont
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Welcome to Rootschat Mark.
My Census info is from Anc.
Trish :)
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There is a death for a Jean Hutton(or Lamont) . age 77 , 1896 Grangemouth Stirling(shire).
ev
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Familysearch has;
John Lamont Or Eadie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 21 August 1843 ALVA, STIRLING, SCOTLAND
mother: Jean Lamont
Have you viewed the original on SP as it should name the father given that he's recorded as 'Lamont Or Eadie'?
Annie
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Thank you Trish and Annie,
Ironically, getting that birth certificate open many doors (3 steps forward) but then closed some (2 doors back).
It allowed me to go back three generations to Dunblane, where further success depends on a lot of hard detective work as everyone in Dunblane was called John in those days. I think even the womenfolk.
But the reason for the door closing was because suddenly I discovered that the parents of Isabella Lawson were not who we had long thought they were. We thought her parent were a William Lawson and a Jessie Smith from around Edinburgh which led to all kinds of interesting people...but alas, on the Eadie-Lawson marriage certificate, it says her parents were a Robert Lawson, a deceased ploughman and one Janet Trotter. The Trotter surname (meaning that I am related to Del boy and Rodney) appears in several of the Eadie-Lawson children so that certainly makes sense.\
However, finding Isabella's birth or anything about Lawson or Trotter is the next adventure!
I feel a trip coming on to central Scotland!
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As ev said;
There is a death for a Jean Hutton(or Lamont) . age 77 , 1896 Grangemouth Stirling(shire).
If still interested in her I would look at that on Scotlandspeople.
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Agree Trish as it would name both parents, with mother's maiden name (if known to the informant).
Annie
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Any thoughts on how to get more on Jane Lamont or John Eadie's father? I have tried some of the logical Ancestry.co.uk searches using these surnames, dates and areas but have drawn a blank.
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
If you do that, make sure to spend a couple of days in the Scotland's People Centre in Edinburgh before you go to Stirlingshire. Almost all of the surviving records you will want to see are in Edinburgh, and you will just waste your time and probably get frustrated if you try to go round churches looking for records.