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Title: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 00:30 BST (UK)
William BLAIR was born about 1837 and by 1871 was practicing medicine at Abbey Green, Jedburgh. He died in 1929
I have done fairly well with details of his  wife, children and further descendants, but would like help with a couple of points.

Many newspaper references say the family was "of Abbey Green"

Where exactly is Abbey Green?
Looking at maps online I cannot quite clarify this.

{I did see a Blair Avenue in Jedburgh ;D ;D}

My other query is about cemeteries.

He and his wife (Jessie Hardie BLAIR d. 1895), and at least one daughter (Ella BLAIR= Jessie Hardie Isabella BLAIR d. 1947), died at Abbey Green. Where is the most like burial place?

Very glad if someone can help.

Sue

Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 July 17 00:40 BST (UK)
Sue, do you have William and family through the censuses? If so, what addresses are given?

If you have William and Jessie's death certificates, and if so is their abode simply "Abbey Green"?

I may be off the mark, but an address of Abbey Green suggests to me that this may be in the vicinity of Jedburgh Abbey. I will do some digging.  ;)

Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 July 17 00:53 BST (UK)
Abbeygreen here:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=18.087182725000574&lat=55.4766&lon=-2.5534&layers=176&right=BingHyb

You can see some houses to the left which sadly no longer stand.  >:( He probably lived in one of those. What an amazing place to live - right by the Abbey!

Regarding burials, the closest burial ground is obviously the Abbey. I know it is ancient, but I haven't found out when their last burials were (I'm still looking).  ;)
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Ruskie.

1871 Address, Port House Exchange Street, Jedburgh, Roxburghshire.
1881-Address simply -Abbey Green,Jedburgh, Roxburghshire.
1891 As above
1901 As above.

No, I do not have DCs.

Sue
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:05 BST (UK)
There are a couple of churches just south of Abbey Green, though I can't see any burial grounds attached to them. By 1929, he may have been buried in a cemetery.

(No matter about the d/cs - I just thought if you knew where they died, it may help find their burials) :)

I will keep looking.  :)
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:20 BST (UK)
 Wonder if I can write to Cemetery trustees in the region :-\
They were a community -minded sort of family.

The National Probate Calendar gives information William BLAIR 1929

.....confirmation of Jessie Hardie Isabella Blair and Rev Charles James MORE More  EDIT MIDDLETON and Rev Oswald B MILLIGAN...... sealed London

I wonder if they were local clergy.

 EDIT
Answering my own question
Yes, both Reverends were local clergy from a few newspaper items.
Sue
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:34 BST (UK)
I'm not sure Sue.  :-\ You would expect there to be an obit for him, though I think access to historical Scottish newspapers might be subscription only.

When the Scottish experts wake up they may be able to help you with burials. I couldn't find anything online.

Maybe add the words "Jedburgh" and "burials" to your subject line which might attract their attention?  :-\
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:45 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help and advice.
Sue
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 July 17 01:50 BST (UK)
Sue, if interested you may be able to discover more about William through medical school records or memberships to associations. I vaguely remember reading threads where others have done this. :D

I'm not sure where to direct you for information, but I'm sure someone will be able to do so.

Added: I note that you say William was  born "about 1837". His death and marriage certificates will give his age and also both parent's names. It might help you narrow down the correct birth/baptism as William Blair is not an uncommon name.
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: Sunlaws on Wednesday 05 July 17 11:57 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
For such a kenspeckle and longstanding local figure he's a bit elusive! The notice in the Scotsman deaths column just says "At Abbey Green, Jedburgh on 23rd November (1929) William Blair M.D. in his 92nd year. Funeral private. (No flowers by request)' So no clues there. There is also a longer tribute in the Scotsman which I can PM you if you don't have it, but again, no clue about burial place. Castlewood cemetery in Jedburgh had been opened in 1857, and is perhaps the likeliest place. I think Jedburgh MIs are in the pipeline to be published by Borders FHS, but nothing on their website as yet. A search for his name on Hubcat gives only one instance, that William Blair M.D. registered a motor car in 1904. http://bit.ly/2tHZYUv  (Quite a pioneer, then!)
William Blair is not among the list of five medical practitioners in Jedburgh in the Southern Counties Register of 1866.
Regards,
Lesley
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 12:36 BST (UK)
Thank you Lesley.
I had seen the abbreviated death notice-

 "At Abbey Green, Jedburgh on 23rd November (1929) William Blair M.D. in his 92nd year. Funeral private. (No flowers by request)''

But I had not seen the other item you have found.

I would greatly appreciate it by PM if possible.

The motor car registration is a good find for us.
It has long been a family story that William BLAIR had the first motor car in a certain part of Scotland (where exactly never quite  defined clearly ::))

There are a couple of other mentions in papers about his enthusiasm for motoring, including a motor hill climbing event.

The Castlewood Cemetery is a good possibility.
Thanks,
Sue
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 05 July 17 22:22 BST (UK)
Sue, checking the 1925 VRs on SP shows a number of entries for William Blair, proprietor and occupier, house and garden and stable, Abbey Green.

Also showing is the following entries at Abbey Green:

A Dr Walter Armstrong Elliot, tenant and occupier, house and garden, Abbey Green.

A John and Mrs Caroline Hamilton, proprietor and occupiers, Greenhouses, Abbey Green.

A Dr Charles S Nimmo, tenant and occupier, house and garden, Abbey Green.

Almost like a cottage hospital going on there....!

A brief description from the OS 1858 http://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/roxburghshire-os-name-books-1858-1860/roxburghshire-volume-20/81

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 05 July 17 22:28 BST (UK)
Not sure if you have this. From the 1891 medical register, William Blair's entry shows his as domiciled at Abbey Green. First registered as a doctor 4 May 1863. He looks to have graduated in medicine from Glasgow University that year.

www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/biography/?id=WH8609&type=P

Monica
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 05 July 17 22:53 BST (UK)
Apart from his love of all things motor, he also seems to have been an avid photographer www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2452353/pdf/brmedj07679-0036c.pdf

Monica

PS: Apologies if you have all of this already.
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 July 17 23:06 BST (UK)
Monica,
The information you have given is absolute gold.
Thank you very much indeed.
These items will be treasured by his descendants here in Australia.
His G G G G grandson has just turned 6years ;D

I appreciate your time and kindness.

Sue
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: terianne on Wednesday 05 July 17 23:23 BST (UK)
Other than the part abbey graveyard that still exists the many cemetery in Jedburgh is at the top of the Castlegate behind the castle jail - think it starts 1840's to the present day - Borders FHS have documented the MI's but still not published

The Abbey graveyard was being used in last century - a few family plots - not sure if any main
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: Sunlaws on Thursday 06 July 17 08:23 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
I have PM'd you the Scotsman obituary, and will try to get a copy of the entry in the Motor Car Register next time at the Hub.
Regards,
Lesley
Title: Re: Dr William BLAIR, Abbey Green, Jedburgh
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 06 July 17 08:31 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Lesley.
Every little extra bit is valued ;D
Sue