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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Tim Brayshaw on Thursday 06 July 17 08:27 BST (UK)
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I have Thomas Holtby, Born 1826 (Not sure of the location yet, but presumably Lincolnshire at this stage)
He married a Elizabeth Bescoby/Boscoby (b1831) in 1849 in Gasberton, Lincolnshire
Elizabeth's Baptism
Elizabeth Bescoby Gender Female Christening Date 12 Mar 1832 Christening Date (Original) 12 MAR 1832 Christening Place SPALDING,LINCOLN,ENGLAND Father's Name Thomas Bescoby Mother's Name Hannah
He passed away in 1861 and was buried in Gasberton. His wife Elizabeth passed away and was buried in 1868.
My ultimate aim is to find the name of his mother, i know his father is called William from the marriage register. To do that i would like to either find him on the 1841 census with his family aged 15 or so, or at least find his place of birth on the 1851 census so i can try and find a baptism record for him.
There's a possible entry in the 1861 census because he wasn't buried until the September. Elilzabeth should still be on the 1861 census though. I just can't find the family anywhere!]
Many thanks for any help!
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Try searching for Elizabeth just on forename & YoB +/- 2 years in Gasberton - probably the surname is mistranscribed ..... if that finds them, use his forenam & PoB in earlier census searching ...
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They appear to be in boston registration district in 1855 for birth of john.
1853 spalding district for john stokes holtby.
1857 Rosina b Boston
1859 Selina
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John Stokes Holtby son of Thomas & Elizabeth Holtby ; abode : Spalding Union House
22 Apr 1853 Spalding.
They may have been in and out of the Workhouse and missed the census or are on it , listed by initials only.
Edit :
Also John Stokes Bescoby Holtby 15 Feb 1851 , Thomas & Elizabeth Holtby , abode Spalding Union House.
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M74L-YK7
Looks like a daughters selina and rosina, but cant look at original .
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1851 census
HO107 2096 641 20
Spalding Union Workhouse
Elizabeth Holtby 20 Spalding
John Holtby 1 month Spalding
Can't see Thomas .
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They appear to be in boston registration district in 1855 for birth of john.
1853 spalding district for john stokes holtby.
1857 Rosina b Boston
1859 Selina
There are deaths for Rosina and Selina 1860 and 1859.
There is a death for John Stokes in 1854 which has age as 18 yrs- possibly mis transcribed.
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF99-R3T
Hannah - born and baptised 1861 Gosberton, dies the same quarter.
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There is a Thomas HELSBY born Quadring Lincs age 25 in Spalding work house according to familysearch. Might be worth checking the image to see if could be HOLTBY.
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That could be him.
On one site he is transcribed as Holliday. The entry above him is John Holliday but Thomas looks more like Holtby.
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The image is definitely Holtby.
Thomas Houltby baptised on 13th November 1825, son of William, labourer, and Sarah.
William Houltby married Mary Dowse on 18 Jan 1825 in Quadring.
David
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1851 census
HO107 2096 641 20
Spalding Union Workhouse
Elizabeth Holtby 20 Spalding
John Holtby 1 month Spalding
Can't see Thomas .
On this one John is 1 month old, but the only John's were born in 1853 and 1855. Could this possibly be the wrong family?
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The image is definitely Holtby.
Thomas Houltby baptised on 13th November 1825, son of William, labourer, and Sarah.
William Houltby married Mary Dowse on 18 Jan 1825 in Quadring.
David
Does this mean Mary Dowse and Sarah are one in the same person?
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1851 census
HO107 2096 641 20
Spalding Union Workhouse
Elizabeth Holtby 20 Spalding
John Holtby 1 month Spalding
Can't see Thomas .
On this one John is 1 month old, but the only John's were born in 1853 and 1855. Could this possibly be the wrong family?
John Stokes Bescoby Holtby baptised Feb 1851 - reply number 3 .
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The child was registered as William ...
March quarter 1851 Spalding vol 14 pg 606
William John Stokes Bescoby Holtby
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Apologies: Thomas was the son of William and Mary, not Sarah.
The names are sometimes recorded as Houtby but the images are not very clear.
Children:-
Thomas - 1825 as before
John - bapt 25th February 1827 (possible death 1834)
William - bapt 12th April 1829
Mary Ann - bapt 5 or 6th June 1831 buried 16th June
James - bapt 6th May 1832 buried 13th Jan 1833
Frances - 8th December 1833
James bapt - 24th April 1836
William, the father was buried on 13th Jan 1837 and Mary on 10th Jan (both aged 40)
In 1841 James and William Jnr are recorded as Holtby in Spalding Union Workhouse.
1841 Fen Bank, Quadring
Thomas Dowse 60 1781 b Lincolnshire
Elizabeth Dowse 70 1771 b Lincolnshire
Frances Holtby 7 b Lincolnshire
David
P.S. - Frances Holtby of Spalding Union Workhouse buried on 6th March 1854 at Spalding St Mary St Nicolas
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William Holtby, shoemaker, born 1829 in Quadring, married Ann Thompson in St Paul, Sculcoates, Yorkshire. Neither gave the name of their father.
Witnesses - Richard Thompson and Ellen Clayton.
1861 Census: 12, North Street, Holy Trinity, Hull
William Holtby Head, 32, b 1829, Shoemaker, b Quadring, Lincolnshire
Ann Holtby Wife, 37, b 1824, Hull, Yorkshire
Frances E Holtby, Daughter, 11 months, b 1861, Hull, Yorkshire
Frances Elizabeth Holtby, d William and Ann, baptised 1st May 1861 at Hull, St Stephen
1881 Census: Town Street, Chapel Allerton, Leeds
William Holtby, Widower, Shoemaker, b 1830 Quadring, Lincolnshire
Frances Elizth Holtby, Daughter, Dress Maker, b 1861 Hull
Frances married Olaf Meier in 1881
1819 Census: Eton Terrace, Sculcoates, Yorkshire
William Holtby, Widower, Shoemaker, b 1829, Quadring, Lincolnshire
Frances E Meier, Daughter, b 1861, Hull, Yorkshire
Olaf Meier, Son In Law, Tailor, b 1856, Norway
Anna F Meier, Granddaughter, 8
George W Meier, Grandson 7
Alice L Meier, Granddaughter, 6
Clara Meier, Granddaughter, 3
Mary E Meier, Granddaughter, 1
David